Scotty Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Scotty said: I agree about that, but cause of death in the midst of a pandemic is different I think. I know they hid aids deaths, but this is more serious isn’t it ? We should hope then that one of the press ask a very clear question to HQ or DA and get an honest answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog's Dangly Bits Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 I'm not entirely sure what difference it makes. Someone is dead. From Covid. It isn't something being hidden. What is there to hide exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Scotty said: We should hope then that one of the press ask a very clear question to HQ or DA and get an honest answer. HAHAHAHAHA yeah. That's not going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Death is a matter of public record. data protection doesn’t apply to the departed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: HAHAHAHAHA yeah. That's not going to happen. Sometimes I am optimistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog's Dangly Bits Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Derek Flint said: Death is a matter of public record. data protection doesn’t apply to the departed. I would be very surprised if your second sentence is true. Death is a matter of public record. But it doesn't mean it has to be recorded or announced anywhere other than in the Registry . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetchtyke Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, The Dog's Dangly Bits said: I would be very surprised if your second sentence is true. Death is a matter of public record. But it doesn't mean it has to be recorded or announced anywhere other than in the Registry . GDPR doesn't apply to dead people, but other legislation around medical records does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog's Dangly Bits Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 hours ago, thesultanofsheight said: They haven’t really. They’ve said someone has died of COVID-19 when it may well be that someone has died after testing positive for COVID-19. There is a very big difference there which I’m sure would be beneficial for them to clarify given some of the things being said and presented as “fact” on social media. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/person-on-island-dies-from-covid-19/ The statement is clear. They died of Covid. That's the statement. What needs clarifying? Only idiots pay attention to social media hysteria. You should know. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Allison against testing as well, if we just tested on arrival we would get some positives at least. Thus obsession with no testing by Comin contrary to all other countries is just stupid! https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/uks-student-covid-tests-unlikely-to-be-used-on-iom/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog's Dangly Bits Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, Banker said: Allison against testing as well, if we just tested on arrival we would get some positives at least. Thus obsession with no testing by Comin contrary to all other countries is just stupid! https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/uks-student-covid-tests-unlikely-to-be-used-on-iom/ He simply said they wouldn't use that specific type of test because it was only about 70% accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 minute ago, The Dog's Dangly Bits said: He simply said they wouldn't use that specific type of test because it was only about 70% accurate. But we won’t use any type of test in case it shows a positive case and the Facebook mob cause panic,why are we so out of line with every other country? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I’m not sure about this, but Oxera are very respectable number crunchers. The 14 day quarantine must be wrong. It’s the gold standard. Isn’t it? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesultanofsheight Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 20 minutes ago, Banker said: But we won’t use any type of test in case it shows a positive case and the Facebook mob cause panic,why are we so out of line with every other country? It’s very clear the Facebook Karen’s are driving the agenda and a lot of the kneejerk policy here. We’ve had the option to revert to science driven approaches and slightly loosen border controls and up testing several times now to no avail. Which makes the lack of any official context around the death being published even more perplexing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetchtyke Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 51 minutes ago, John Wright said: I’m not sure about this, but Oxera are very respectable number crunchers. The 14 day quarantine must be wrong. It’s the gold standard. Isn’t it? Interesting, but I'd doubt the independence of a paper funded by the airline industry and starting with a preface about how important the airline industry is. And have made assumptions about quarantine non-compliance based on the UK shitshow. Maybe I'm just a cynic. Countries with the panic-stricken Karen quarantine include those notable scaredy-cats Canada, China, Japan, South Korea, Singapore and Australia. Australia still even stick you in a hotel and make you pay for it. So the IOM is not an outlier. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyingfemme Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 If you don’t find out where the infections are coming from and how they get there, you have nothing to justify any change of policy. You are stuck with closed borders and 14 day quarantine for ever. Unless somebody puts their head above the parapet and admits they were wrong all along. Which I doubt any politician will do. So how do you dig yourself out of this hole? Or do you become the lost tribe? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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