Roger Mexico Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 13 minutes ago, NoTailT said: A tradie working in a nursing home was sent home from working there today because his good lady has tested positive. I think Allinson and his 'not if but when' is really a sign of things to come but hopefully they prove to be false positive. Yes, I noticed that from Allinson as well. But proper diagnoses done here (rather than daft people sending off for home test kits) won't be false positives - at most they return an uncertain result and are re-tested. And I am horrified that someone sharing with a person supposed to be self-isolating would be working anywhere near a nursing home. I can't help wondering if "Isolated individual (non-community)" is being taken to mean that they are isolating now, rather than ever since returning from UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaymann Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: Yes, I noticed that from Allinson as well. But proper diagnoses done here (rather than daft people sending off for home test kits) won't be false positives - at most they return an uncertain result and are re-tested. And I am horrified that someone sharing with a person supposed to be self-isolating would be working anywhere near a nursing home. I can't help wondering if "Isolated individual (non-community)" is being taken to mean that they are isolating now, rather than ever since returning from UK. I can foresee the briefing tomorrow when Mr Ashford states that he acknowledges they aren't reporting this correctly and are now quoting a new section 'Now in isolation' but it still isn't a community case, if it is/was (no proof of such right now). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 25 minutes ago, Nom de plume said: Well according to the official IOM Government Twitter account, the two new cases today are isolating and not in the community. I have very good reason to doubt this. they might be now, but i suspect they were out and about before hand. just out of interest, how many people have died from the flu this year ? is it still the usual numbers or are some flu deaths being classed as covid ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, Dave Hedgehog said: It was only 15 minutes. More likely the person putting the daily data up had gone for a dump. It was a bit more than 15 mins normally released at 4 aren't they? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Git Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 23 minutes ago, NoTailT said: I think Allinson and his 'not if but when' is really a sign of things to come but hopefully they prove to be false positive. I wondered if he was preparing us for a community case. Half expected it today, but I suppose it would be a better fit with the press conference tomorrow 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I certainly hope not. Dont think I can take the mentalists on here going into hysterics about the hysterical mentalists on facebook. 3 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, NoTailT said: A tradie working in a nursing home was sent home from working there today because his good lady has tested positive. I think Allinson and his 'not if but when' is really a sign of things to come but hopefully they prove to be false positive. I think most people are thinking it will be in the community by Christmas, with students to blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yootalkin2me Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Andy Onchan said: From the outset I always thought that the level of asymptomatics would be much higher than was being reported, simply because of the lack of testing (UK in particular). Had these folk been identified earlier then they would have had to isolate. No questions or excuses. If asymptomatics are found outside of isolation then they deserve to get the book thrown at them. It's such a deadly virus you need to be tested to see if you have it...lol Edited November 11, 2020 by yootalkin2me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 21 minutes ago, yootalkin2me said: It's such a deadly virus you need to be tested to see if you have it...lol Yes, tell that to the 595 people that died in the UK in the last 24 hours. Oh wait you can't. Before you start (because I've heard this a lot) yes people die every day and yes these people would have died anyway but for virtually all them that day wouldn't have been yesterday. Further I also am aware that lots of people died of other things yesterday but if the pandemic gets further out of hand and hospital admissions continue to grow (now above first wave levels in the North of England) then hospitals will close down to non-Covid patients and even more unnecessary deaths will occur. So yeah...LOL 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 39 minutes ago, yootalkin2me said: It's such a deadly virus you need to be tested to see if you have it...lol This is such a retarded argument. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trmpton Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: This is such a retarded argument. Sort of. It is indeed a deadly virus for some. But it also a fact that huge numbers of people who contract it, would never know unless they are tested. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 54 minutes ago, yootalkin2me said: It's such a deadly virus you need to be tested to see if you have it...lol Like HIV for example. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaymann Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Gov have clarified The cases have been identified through the contact tracing process and relate to an existing COVID-19 case that arose from off-Island travel. Contact tracing has been completed, although some test results from high risk contacts are still awaited. https://t.co/ky4f5GjPqk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Contact tracing of an existing case that came from off Island and they’re positive? So does that mean these 2 new cases were community transmission then if it came about through contact tracing? Based on what I’ve heard from multiple people today, this really doesn’t stack up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I love this ‘note to editors’ by gov As all seven of the Islands active cases have a clear, traceable chain of transmission related to off-Island travel, these do not count as community transmissions. so, we have an index case that has clearly caused a community transmission but because it’s traceable to someone who had off-Island travel and they’re now isolating with their household, it’s a self isolating case. LOVED @rachomicscomment on this whereby every case Mar-Jun would be contacts of contacts of contacts of people who travelled off Island and therefore not community cases. What a bloody mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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