Escape Artist Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 35 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: And in this infection there's also the fact that we know those not showing any symptoms can infect others - even if they never go on to show any later. The number of completely asymptomatic people may be lower than has been thought - latest estimates are about 20% - but they can still give it to others. Furthermore, this is completely false. You have read it on a communist newspaper... It is actually the other way around, 80-90% of people do not have recognisable symptoms. Unless, you count as symptoms those of the commonest type of cold. When I had Covid, my main symptom was a bloody bleeding nose; at my middle age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yootalkin2me Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, Escape Artist said: Roger Mexico: I presume you are a filthy ball of fat; as most of those who want the restrictions are. If you were not the filthy ball of fat you are, you would understand and feel actually what kind of torture can be to be deprived of physical exercise. It does not make a practical difference to me. When I was back in the island, during those 14 days, I went running on my own in the depth of the night with no problem or risk of being prosecuted. I belong to the social-economic strata that are exempt from prosecution under Covid. Oh dear, so excercising in the garden or in the house for fourteen days is impossible then...have you not heard of lifting bags of sugar, running on the spot, rowing machines, running up and down the stairs etc etc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsmeee Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 8 hours ago, Barlow said: Have you a source link for that please. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/iom-still-adopting-eradication-policy-allinson/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worlds-greatest-manxman Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Escape Artist said: I belong to the social-economic strata that are exempt from prosecution under Covid. Do you shovel cow shit on Howies farm? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsmeee Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 9 hours ago, yootalkin2me said: Oh dear, so excercising in the garden or in the house for fourteen days is impossible then...have you not heard of lifting bags of sugar, running on the spot, rowing machines, running up and down the stairs etc etc Not everybody has a garden. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 10 hours ago, Albert Tatlock said: They do need to seriously police these 'returnees'. Especially those arriving weeks commencing Mon 6th and 13th in the build up to xmas. Two infected people out and about in those weeks could cause carnage and a lockdown in January...ironically when the vaccine starts rolling out. I can see that lockdown needing to happen all down to complacency. There's a £multi-million economy at at stake here Jan to March. 'Carnage'? Can we just have a reality check for a moment please. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikingRaider Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 13 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: I suspect what has happened here is the usual. Someone recently described Boris Johnson as a cushion which always bore the marks of whoever had sat on him last, and his Mini-Me is the same. Some mate no doubt complained about not being able to get out for a bit a fresh air when isolating, and they ended up making the system unenforceable because they didn't think things through. I agree with you about this being a mistake and making it now unenforceable but I strongly suspect that the real reason it has been changed is because they have cottoned on to the fact that compulsory isolation of whole householders will cause serious issues for anyone unable to exercise their dogs who doesn't have a decent sized garden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 13 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: It's worth saying that they have made things more difficult for themselves by introducing the exercise hour for those isolating. At first it looks reasonable - according to Quayle's statement[1]: All that does is highlight how daft it was not allowing the original returnees an hour of exercise. 12 hours ago, Albert Tatlock said: They do need to seriously police these 'returnees'. Especially those arriving weeks commencing Mon 6th and 13th in the build up to xmas. Police people in their own homes or going about their lawful business? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, Declan said: All that does is highlight how daft it was not allowing the original returnees an hour of exercise. Police people in their own homes or going about their lawful business? Not sure how anyone can police the hours exercise policy , how could anyone possibly know how long someone has been out walking other than electronic tags which even Howie with his controlling attitude wouldn’t allow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 It doesn't need policing. Unless someone alleges there's been breaches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 19 minutes ago, Banker said: Not sure how anyone can police the hours exercise policy , how could anyone possibly know how long someone has been out walking other than electronic tags which even Howie with his controlling attitude wouldn’t allow There will be plenty of people watching their neighbours. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 The COVID police are out in force in the South of England.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Does anyone know the science behind the vaccine preventing not only developing the disease, but also transmitting it? There seem to be quite a few people unwilling to have the vaccine over safety fears, but if it prevents transmission then that is quite an advantage to factor into the risk. Admittedly, not for the individual but in a public health argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 The virus prevents the symptoms, I very much doubt it prevents vaccinated, asymptomatic individuals who've come into contact with carriers, carrying the disease themselves and being infectious to others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Gladys said: There will be plenty of people watching their neighbours. Instead of the Berlin Wall we have a moat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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