Max Power Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Just for amusement... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 11 hours ago, Banker said: We need to at least allow families to visit as it’s getting ridiculous now Can't you just wait for the vaccine? It's bad enough all the students coming back for Christmas. Although, let's be honest, most of the smart ones will have deferred this year. 9 hours ago, All Right said: a lot of people deciding to move back to the UK fir family reasons. A very few. Maybe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Maybe just cancel Christmas this year. Like the TT. Not many of us are Christians anyhow. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Kopek said: I think there are more important aspects of Lockdown/restrictions/border closures to concentrate on than second home owners!!! The point is that Howie is banning Manx born people who don’t need work permits etc whilst allowing a number of second home owners to shelter here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 2 hours ago, tetchtyke said: No, it has to be only or principal residence. Second/holiday home owners do not count as Manx residents. Some may apply as Manx residents, but they shouldn't, because they're not. I'm fairly certain at one stage that ownership was enough - they may have tightened up. But in a lot of cases it won't matter anyway, because if the property is owned by a company (as many will be for tax reasons) then all they need to do is have their company grant themselves a tenancy and they will able to come here based on that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetchtyke Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: I'm fairly certain at one stage that ownership was enough - they may have tightened up. But in a lot of cases it won't matter anyway, because if the property is owned by a company (as many will be for tax reasons) then all they need to do is have their company grant themselves a tenancy and they will able to come here based on that. The rules for getting a Manx resident permit have always been slightly different to the contractual route, which you linked to, though with the contractual route you had to be buying the property to actually live in it. I suppose they didn't spell this out as you wouldn't be applying as a non-resident buying property to come to the IOM if you weren't intending to move here. The gist for residents is only or principal home. But the types of evidence any government would want- utility or rates bills, etc- are the sorts of things second home owners have too. So second home owners aren't allowed to come here, but in reality if they lie on their application and say they're resident here (and the form does refer to both resident and principal residence) when they're not then they may well not get caught out. But they are still lying. As you say, if the home's owned by a company they control then all bets are off. Edited November 24, 2020 by tetchtyke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duck of Atholl Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Just as an aside I note that magna Carta hairdresser woman in Bradford (?) has accrued circa £17k in lockdown fines and continues to flout the law. So much for the efficacy and proportionality of just fining people for Covid breaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, pongo said: Maybe just cancel Christmas this year. Like the TT. Not many of us are Christians anyhow. Will we still be allowed to watch escape to victory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Not Monty Python definitely, perhaps days of Wine and Roses to give some perspective to obsession??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duck of Atholl Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 So if my understanding of some posters stance on this is correct, they aren't worried about catching Covid itself but are worried about the vaccine so won't have it? How odd. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Right Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, The Duck of Atholl said: How odd. It’s not odd really when you consider that it takes many years normally to get approval for a new drug or vaccine but this will probably be signed off in 6 months based on a limited number of tests. Just because people may be skeptical of the fast tracking that will apply doesn’t make them anti-vaxxers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 2 hours ago, pongo said: Maybe just cancel Christmas this year. Like the TT. Not many of us are Christians anyhow. yeah but, yeah but, we all like getting pished 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 28 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said: Will we still be allowed to watch escape to victory? No, but The Great Escape is a safe bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 What we need is TRUST, trust that those privileged to return to our covid free shores will stick with the requirements of their isolation. No quickies with the wife who then passes it it on to her work colleagues and beyond.......... Can we rely on that? No, I dont think that we can. The next month is going to be a test of our on Island resolve versus the returning masses from confusing jurisdictions instructions their own rules. Time for our own Govt to focus on our own rules, make then plain, make the consequences of a breach widely known!!!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyingfemme Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) According to the reports I have read, these vaccines have been tested on tens of thousands of people rather than less than 5,000 for other new vaccines. The amount of money being chucked at the research and the willingness of volunteers to participate is making a huge difference to the “process”. No delays while funding is applied for and no waits while the volunteer pool is gathered has, apparently, sliced years off the required timescales. The only thing “missing” is long term follow up on the participants. I was highly sceptical a few weeks ago but my reading has made me begin to modify my point of view. If they begin in the next couple of weeks, it may be possible for vaccinated youth to go back and colonise the Rock. Edited November 25, 2020 by Flyingfemme 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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