the stinking enigma Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I admire your optimism but you cant polish an optimism. Or use an optimism after your name on letterheads. And i should know, been doing it for years. Im not giving up though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said: I admire your optimism but you cant polish an optimism. Or use an optimism after your name on letterheads. And i should know, been doing it for years. Im not giving up though. You can attempt to polish a turd though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Dave Hedgehog said: Things seem to be going well in Jersey too https://www.itv.com/news/channel/2020-11-30/gary-burgess-jerseys-worst-day-and-lockdown-looms?fbclid=IwAR3mCaUxWDhws-_4mT30TlNGUIfvQ2yHmW08mxupakmkTUVzmYP1cYJvfwA I'm going to go out on a limb here, call it a hunch, I don't know - maybe a gut feeling. Do you think if we'd tested nearly 180,000 people we'd still be at 'zero community cases' ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b4mbi Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Nom de plume said: I'm going to go out on a limb here, call it a hunch, I don't know - maybe a gut feeling. Do you think if we'd tested nearly 180,000 people we'd still be at 'zero community cases' ? No, definitely not. We'd have to import 100,000 people from the infected isles, and defo some of them would have the COVID. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 minute ago, b4mbi said: No, definitely not. We'd have to import 100,000 people from the infected isles, and defo some of them would have the COVID. Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosh. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, Nom de plume said: I'm going to go out on a limb here, call it a hunch, I don't know - maybe a gut feeling. Do you think if we'd tested nearly 180,000 people we'd still be at 'zero community cases' ? I'm sure you know better than to frame it like that, but I'll play a little. Jersey seem to be doing around 1200 tests daily, so over 2 weeks say about 17000 tests. Adjusted for population that would be around 15000 here if we were matching it. They had as of Friday 200 active cases, I'm pretty sure if we had tested 15000 in the last two weeks it would have picked up some asymptomatic travellers, and maybe, just maybe a couple of 'community cases'. But nowhere near what they have got. And you know that really, deep down, don't you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: I'm sure you know better than to frame it like that, but I'll play a little. Jersey seem to be doing around 1200 tests daily, so over 2 weeks say about 17000 tests. Adjusted for population that would be around 15000 here if we were matching it. They had as of Friday 200 active cases, I'm pretty sure if we had tested 15000 in the last two weeks it would have picked up some asymptomatic travellers, and maybe, just maybe a couple of 'community cases'. But nowhere near what they have got. And you know that really, deep down, don't you. I don't know & neither can you because a decision was made (seemingly) against the advice of our scientific & medical experts to drop testing aside those who felt unwell (or felt unwell and could be arsed enough to dial 111). I'm calling bullshit on this Covid free Nirvana Narnia. Edited November 30, 2020 by Nom de plume Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Nom de plume said: I don't know & neither can you because a decision was made (seemingly) against the advice of our scientific & medical experts to drop testing aside those who felt unwell (or felt unwell and could be arsed enough to dial 111). Don't get me wrong, I think it is insane not to be doing more testing, especially to travellers. But we would know if there were a bunch of people out and about with covid, we'd know. Hopefully, and it mostly appears so, all arrivals are sticking to the rules. Wouldn't take many to screw it, they really should be testing more. Guernsey's day 13 test picked someone up today I read, it's been running for what, a week? Should be doing it also, or the 7, or better still both. By the sounds of things a party in a hotel bar has caused a problem down Jersey, with no restrictions here it is easy to see how an outbreak could take place. Must have been nearly 2000 people in Castletown Square on Saturday night, and from the pictures Peel too for the light switch on. The pubs were packed after down here. I've not seen a news article recently of someone in trouble for breaking the rules, so it seems people are doing the right thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Nom de plume said: I'm going to go out on a limb here, call it a hunch, I don't know - maybe a gut feeling. Do you think if we'd tested nearly 180,000 people we'd still be at 'zero community cases' ? Yes we would still have zero. If it were here amongst us we'd sure as hell know about it without the need for testing Edited November 30, 2020 by Happier diner Typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog's Dangly Bits Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, TheTeapot said: Don't get me wrong, I think it is insane not to be doing more testing, especially to travellers. But we would know if there were a bunch of people out and about with covid, we'd know. Hopefully, and it mostly appears so, all arrivals are sticking to the rules. Wouldn't take many to screw it, they really should be testing more. Guernsey's day 13 test picked someone up today I read, it's been running for what, a week? Should be doing it also, or the 7, or better still both. By the sounds of things a party in a hotel bar has caused a problem down Jersey, with no restrictions here it is easy to see how an outbreak could take place. Must have been nearly 2000 people in Castletown Square on Saturday night, and from the pictures Peel too for the light switch on. The pubs were packed after down here. I've not seen a news article recently of someone in trouble for breaking the rules, so it seems people are doing the right thing. 2000 people ? Was it dole day or something in Castletown? There's clearly little or no covid here. We would know given the mass gatherings. 8000 in Douglas apparently for the lights the other week. In January I would like to see a better testing regime in place and more movement of people. Family as a minimum. And business. We definitely need to get that aspect moving (i wouldn't pay any attention to anyone that says face to face doesn't matter. Probably work in IT, Complaince or projects). Edited November 30, 2020 by The Dog's Dangly Bits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 22 minutes ago, The Dog's Dangly Bits said: I would like to see a better teating regime in place and more movement of people So would I narf, narf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-55133926 Here we go - test and vaccine result proposal to be added to NHS app in UK. Time to dump the phone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanShimmin Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 6 hours ago, TheTeapot said: I'm sure you know better than to frame it like that, but I'll play a little. Jersey seem to be doing around 1200 tests daily, so over 2 weeks say about 17000 tests. Adjusted for population that would be around 15000 here if we were matching it. They had as of Friday 200 active cases, I'm pretty sure if we had tested 15000 in the last two weeks it would have picked up some asymptomatic travellers, and maybe, just maybe a couple of 'community cases'. But nowhere near what they have got. And you know that really, deep down, don't you. I've been following Jersey with some interest. They appear to be on the verge of being put back into lockdown. https://www.itv.com/news/channel/2020-11-30/jerseys-chief-minister-last-chance-to-avoid-second-lockdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, AlanShimmin said: I've been following Jersey with some interest. They appear to be on the verge of being put back into lockdown. https://www.itv.com/news/channel/2020-11-30/jerseys-chief-minister-last-chance-to-avoid-second-lockdown A lot of us have. Some on here have been shouting loudly for months how great they are, others have been a bit more cautious. There's no doubt they've been braver in their approach, and sadly for them that bravery is now starting to hurt. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, AlanShimmin said: I've been following Jersey with some interest. They appear to be on the verge of being put back into lockdown. https://www.itv.com/news/channel/2020-11-30/jerseys-chief-minister-last-chance-to-avoid-second-lockdown No they are not. Jesus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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