TerryFuchwit Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 He probably is. If he was in Norway he'd probably be a Liverpool fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 20 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: You sound like an Everton fan. Whining is the raison d’etre of most Evertonians I’ll give you that - I would certainly qualify. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 4 hours ago, Happier diner said: If you are working and living in the UK where would you live if you came here. Sadly theres no such thing as manx citizenship. The Aussies are allowing citizens back regardless of their current domicile but they only get one shot. No visits permitted. You would either isolate with family or rent a property to isolate in ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 12 hours ago, Escape Artist said: Perhaps you understand the difference between one country of 25 mio people, the size of a continent; and an island of 85,000 souls, which is an independent jurisdiction rather than an independent country. The whole IOM border policy should have been informed by that reality. Why does size make a difference......oooo matron! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Sounds like there’s concern that our new residents who are pushing house prices up are all old buggers who will strain health services. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/knowing-age-of-new-residents-important-for-healthcare-plans/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 16 hours ago, Happier diner said: If you are working and living in the UK where would you live if you came here. Sadly theres no such thing as manx citizenship. The Aussies are allowing citizens back regardless of their current domicile but they only get one shot. No visits permitted. The developers are salivating !!! and its not covid !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 15 hours ago, Escape Artist said: Perhaps you understand the difference between one country of 25 mio people, the size of a continent; and an island of 85,000 souls, which is an independent jurisdiction rather than an independent country. The whole IOM border policy should have been informed by that reality. Well you may understand the difference but unfortunately SARS-CoV-2 doesn't. And that's actually what the reality is here. The more you loosen controls that prevent the virus getting in, the more likely that is to happen, no matter how big or small the country or area and no matter what its constitutional status is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Banker said: Sounds like there’s concern that our new residents who are pushing house prices up are all old buggers who will strain health services. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/knowing-age-of-new-residents-important-for-healthcare-plans/ Anecdotally, in orthopaedics we know this to be an issue, and it's not a new one. Over the years I've received many referrals for retirees who have just moved over from the UK and were on a waiting list over there for a joint replacement, so can I please do it here, urgently. There's also a cohort of 'residents' who seem to use the island for its health service but live most of the year in Spain for example. Buying a flat here is a better use of pension funds than buying health insurance for a few years. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 minute ago, wrighty said: Anecdotally, in orthopaedics we know this to be an issue, and it's not a new one. Over the years I've received many referrals for retirees who have just moved over from the UK and were on a waiting list over there for a joint replacement, so can I please do it here, urgently. There's also a cohort of 'residents' who seem to use the island for its health service but live most of the year in Spain for example. Buying a flat here is a better use of pension funds than buying health insurance for a few years. So it’s a very relevant question from Shimmins, surely we should know ages of new residents? Maybe a tax for older new residents ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escape Artist Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Banker said: Sounds like there’s concern that our new residents who are pushing house prices up are all old buggers who will strain health services. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/knowing-age-of-new-residents-important-for-healthcare-plans/ This has been said many times before on this thread: if you run the island with the priorities of a geriatric facility, guess whom you are going to be left with! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escape Artist Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Manx’s government web pages clearly states that while the vaccine is recommended by DHSC to “Islanders” in the “eligible groups” in order of priority, “it is not mandatory and it is ultimately your choice whether or not to have the vaccine”. So reassuring to see it spelled out so clearly; it will disappoint the Stalinist buggers of this forum who had given for granted that Covid vaccinations would been made as mandatory as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Escape Artist said: Stalinist Haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escape Artist Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Turns out, the Swiss are the most reticent to be vaccinated; half of them don’t want it: https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/scepticism-against-anti-covid-vaccine-grows/46190500 The Swiss authorities are also reticent to have it approved, no Covid vaccination is expected in there until late January. Swiss GDP per capita is double the UK’s. One can find some principality, city state etc with higher GDP per capita, but not a whole country of that size. Thus, not a country of nuts precisely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 57 minutes ago, Banker said: So it’s a very relevant question from Shimmins, surely we should know ages of new residents? Maybe a tax for older new residents ? I was bit surprised how little they knew - they couldn't even separate out how many had applied to come here on the grounds that they had bought somewhere, that they had a tenancy or that they had a job (or indeed that they were starting a business). It's then complicated by the fact that dependants aren't included, as they have to apply under compassionate grounds and are then mixed in with a loads of other categories. The information should all be there because it should be on the forms which should be checked to see if the reasons are valid. Hooper was very defensive when he asked a 'question' to support his boss (dealing with questions Harmer seems even more useless at Cabinet Office than at DoI) so presumably they just failed to keep even the most basic statistics. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackajah Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 The IOM has long been touted as a 'desirable' place to retire, hence an influx of retirees. It's not just a health/social care resource problem or one of not being economically active. Pandering to this age group inhibits more progressive policies from being formulated because politicians are wary of losing votes. The IOM isn't geared towards young people and never has been. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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