pongo Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 30 minutes ago, Banker said: we are talking about families visiting and looks like Howie will introduce in New Year Is there any evidence to support this presumption? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Wasn't it "turbulent priest"? Not that it matters, it ends in the same way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, pongo said: Is there any evidence to support this presumption? Well he said so in the briefing in response to a question so yes!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Wasn't it "turbulent priest"? Not that it matters, it ends in the same way... The whole phrase was an 18th Century invention as far as I can see and Henry would probably have been speaking in French in any case. Obviously our own would-be assassins are only skilled in back-stabbing in any case. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escape Artist Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 As a further disappointments to the Stalinist minions on this forum, Ashford confirms that there will be no immunity passport or travel conditional on vaccine status in this isle. Even Ashford has a basic-level understanding of some of the issues. Here is the link: https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/advocate-raises-concerns-over-covid-immunity-passports In the meantime, in the US an FDA advisory board called Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee has recommend the approval of Pfizer’s Covid vaccine for emergency use; vote which went through with 17 in favour, 4 against and 1 abstention. The FDA is not bound to follow such advice, but usually it does. I mention this to point out that consensus on this particular vaccine is not unanimous among government scientists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryFuchwit Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 56 minutes ago, quilp said: The latest iomgov announcement has Quayle rolling his eyes at the mere mention of Dr. Glover by Paul Moulton. Legend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 50 minutes ago, Banker said: What the hell are you on, we are talking about families visiting and looks like Howie will introduce in New Year so back off Karen!! To be fair, Pongo did post this prior to today's briefing, when Howie answered the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Escape Artist said: As a further disappointments to the Stalinist minions on this forum, Ashford confirms that there will be no immunity passport or travel conditional on vaccine status in this isle. Even Ashford has a basic-level understanding of some of the issues. Here is the link: https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/advocate-raises-concerns-over-covid-immunity-passports In the meantime, in the US an FDA advisory board called Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee has recommend the approval of Pfizer’s Covid vaccine for emergency use; vote which went through with 17 in favour, 4 against and 1 abstention. The FDA is not bound to follow such advice, but usually it does. I mention this to point out that consensus on this particular vaccine is not unanimous among government scientists. So Canada has approved it and USA imminent. I wonder how the very limited supply will be dispersed now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escape Artist Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 hour ago, pongo said: There aren't going to be any holidays (except outside of the EU) for people with only UK passports until the EU Covid restrictions are lifted unless a trade deal gets sorted out. No ski holidays, trips to the Canaries etc. It is not true. EU countries do not have to follow EU guidelines on that matter and most don't. For instance, Austria has Covid rules that already regards the UK as being outside of the EU and among the countries for which an exception is made. Those rules are updated frequently, but it is unlikely that the essence will change, considering that there are hundred of thousands of UK residents that have close links to Austria. And, when you say the EU... don't mean France. But even in case of France, it is mainly posturing. Anyway, the EU is no good use for us; for this island in particular. We need the EU like a hole in the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escape Artist Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Cambon said: So Canada has approved it and USA imminent. I wonder how the very limited supply will be dispersed now? Each country has its own prearranged quota; based on agreements signed last summer. Approval does not change that. I am critical of the government response, but it is not a race to the bottom. Not that bad! Edited December 11, 2020 by Escape Artist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 33 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Wasn't it "turbulent priest"? Not that it matters, it ends in the same way... Can be either, and meddlesome, as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Banker said: Changing 14 days isolation to 10 days across all UK , will Howie follow suit or is Cabinet office better qualified than UK chief medical officer!! There's a rather different situation between coming into a country with no or controlled Covid and flying from one with a high Covid rate to another which has similar or even higher. Especially if the arrival country doesn't seem to be taking much care over making sure arrivals bother to follow the rules (or indeed that anyone else is). The truth is that everywhere else is still following 14 day isolation. So the real question is whether you go along with everyone else in the world or someone who, in the end, gets told what to say by Boris Johnson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: There's a rather different situation between coming into a country with no or controlled Covid and flying from one with a high Covid rate to another which has similar or even higher. Especially if the arrival country doesn't seem to be taking much care over making sure arrivals bother to follow the rules (or indeed that anyone else is). The truth is that everywhere else is still following 14 day isolation. So the real question is whether you go along with everyone else in the world or someone who, in the end, gets told what to say by Boris Johnson. It wasn’t Boris it was the 4 medical directors of health for all 4 countries who announced changes based on medical advice. if you listened to Howie today he said they were aware of changes and are considering this change alongside more testing early New Year so obviously even Howie thinks there’s benefits 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Git Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 2 hours ago, TerryFuchwit said: That's a big plus then for non European countries. Of which there are a LOT to choose from. I see Scotland has blacklisted Jersey as a holiday destination Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Escape Artist said: Each country has its own prearranged quota; based on agreements signed last summer. Approval does not change that. I am critical of the government response, but it is not a race to the bottom. Not that bad! I agree, but the quotas, signatures, etc. Will have little bearing on who gets what next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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