Nom de plume Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 minute ago, cheesypeas said: So did I hear correctly? 14 day isolation means 99% chance of not passing the bug on. 10 days isolation means 98% chance of not passing the bug on? .....and we therefore stay at 14 days ! Really ?? Are we not going to lower the drawbridge until the UK has vaccinated everyone then? Gonna be a long 2021 too by the looks. That is exactly what was said. We have adopted a 100% Covid Eradication policy. I’m unsure on the exact vaccination programme here & across but fair to assume we’ll be talking about the students again next Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Its not even been going on for a year yet. Absolute snowflakes, unbelievable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, cheesypeas said: So did I hear correctly? 14 day isolation means 99% chance of not passing the bug on. 10 days isolation means 98% chance of not passing the bug on? .....and we therefore stay at 14 days ! Really ?? Are we not going to lower the drawbridge until the UK has vaccinated everyone then? Gonna be a long 2021 too by the looks. Howie did say the isolation period would be reviewed in light of uk changes to 10 days isolation alongside testing regime. If this means test at 10 days you get released then not many will risk extra 14 days for 3 days off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Colleagues and friends in the UK and all over the world amazed and a little jealous even that here on the IOM we are able to enjoy a relatively normal holiday season with family and friends. Missing a bit of winter sun abroad, but what a privilege to be living here at this time especially. Next year Santa Monica. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesypeas Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Not really the point I was making though. Is the extra 1% really worth the extra isolation any way? Oh, and if Qantas need confirmation I've had a jab, how do I give them that proof ! What happens when easyJet ask for the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, pongo said: Colleagues and friends in the UK and all over the world amazed and a little jealous even that here on the IOM we are able to enjoy a relatively normal holiday season with family and friends. Missing a bit of winter sun abroad, but what a privilege to be living here at this time especially. Next year Santa Monica. We are truly blessed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, cheesypeas said: Not really the point I was making though. Is the extra 1% really worth the extra isolation any way? Oh, and if Qantas need confirmation I've had a jab, how do I give them that proof ! What happens when easyJet ask for the same? They scan the microchip that was implanted with the vaccine. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Santa Monica's for young people, isn't it Pongo? Too close to Bill Gates for my liking!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Kopek said: Santa Monica's for young people, isn't it Pongo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryFuchwit Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 3 hours ago, cheesypeas said: Not really the point I was making though. Is the extra 1% really worth the extra isolation any way? Oh, and if Qantas need confirmation I've had a jab, how do I give them that proof ! What happens when easyJet ask for the same? They won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanxpilot Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) On 12/11/2020 at 4:44 PM, Banker said: Yes they’re starting next week plus Jersey also got theirs earlier this week, Howie seemed to be saying we’re not starting unless they guarantee us the second jab consignment but others are just getting on with it. https://guernseypress.com/news/2020/12/11/vaccinations-to-start-next-week/ There is no requirement to have the second dose exactly 21 days after the first. The guidance published by the UK Government in the UK vaccine 'Green Book' says there is no issue if it is longer, and even suggest a common minimum gap of 28 days should be adopted to harmonise with the Oxford jab when/if it is given approval. See pages 6&7 in this doc: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/943663/Greenbook_chapter_14a_v3.pdf It is known that certain level of protection is given by the first dose and it is boosted by the second, so surely it is best to crack on as soon as the first doses becomes available? Edited December 12, 2020 by madmanxpilot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escape Artist Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 On 12/11/2020 at 6:33 PM, Roger Mexico said: Well you anointed me as Josef himself yesterday, and I've never said it was a good idea - quite the opposite. The enthusiasts for such a Get Out of Jail Free Card tend to be the ones who think they should be allowed to go anywhere and do anything and we should never have any restrictions anyway. On 12/11/2020 at 3:09 PM, Escape Artist said: As a further disappointments to the Stalinist minions on this forum, Ashford confirms that there will be no immunity passport or travel conditional on vaccine status in this isle. Even Ashford has a basic-level understanding of some of the issues. 18 hours ago, TerryFuchwit said: They won't. 21 hours ago, cheesypeas said: Not really the point I was making though. Is the extra 1% really worth the extra isolation any way? Oh, and if Qantas need confirmation I've had a jab, how do I give them that proof ! What happens when easyJet ask for the same? Roger Mexico: I wasn’t thinking about you when I wrote that. There are others on this forum (I can think of about four posters) that have seen those vaccinations cards granting the right to travel as inevitable, almost a de-facto accomplishment. I don’t really think those posters are Stalinist minions. They haven’t thought through the issues. They read a certain British press, which has been overdramatising Covid, cheerleading lockdown, overlooking those vexatious issues or misrepresenting them; typically oversimplifying the problem by looking though ideological lens. There are 10-20 different Covid vaccines coming our way. They have different profiles of risk from the novelty of their platforms, different profiles of individual and community protection. Different countries, for having different cultures and different political systems, are likely to make different choices (the early signs, within Europe, is that many governments are treading very cautiously I have to say). For the government, mandatory vaccinations in the specific situation of Covid is like stepping in a dangerous minefield. The kind of governments that may seriously consider that kind of policy is one who doesn’t care about public opinion or who can easily manipulate it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Does anyone know what the real bottleneck is? Is it A) availability of the vaccine B) Logistics of administering it C) getting it to IOM Very disappointed to hear that it will take until September just to do all the over 50's. Its not just not a speeding silver bullet, it's not anything like bullet like at all is it? More a silver slow thing. If it's just A) then will the Oxford vaccine change this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryFuchwit Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 28 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Does anyone know what the real bottleneck is? Is it A) availability of the vaccine B) Logistics of administering it C) getting it to IOM Very disappointed to hear that it will take until September just to do all the over 50's. Its not just not a speeding silver bullet, it's not anything like bullet like at all is it? More a silver slow thing. If it's just A) then will the Oxford vaccine change this? It doesn't really matter that much here. What matters is how the UK roll it out. Everything impacting on the island is UK led. Our entire borders strategy is based around a 20 in 100000 infection rate. Vaccines here won't help that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 16 minutes ago, TerryFuchwit said: It doesn't really matter that much here. What matters is how the UK roll it out. Everything impacting on the island is UK led. Our entire borders strategy is based around a 20 in 100000 infection rate. Vaccines here won't help that. We don’t have a strategy, we just wait for ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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