Banker Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 8 hours ago, Barlow said: Looking at some of the people who are shouting for family visits and that, I wouldn't be surprised if their family are secretly rather chuffed with the situation. Like some of them in UK shouting about not being able to have Christmas with their families and households not mixing and that. I bet their kids and grandkids etc are over the moon with it all. Not all of them, obviously. Well if it’s your family I’m sure they’re ecstatic they can’t visit! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Git Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 9 hours ago, Gladys said: Well, 975 of us are getting a lovely Xmas present. Guernsey said they received 975 doses, which I thought wasn’t a lot. Didn’t our lot imply that the 975 doses had to be watered down or similar and would presumably make more than 975 individual vaccinations? I’d have to listen to it again to be sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Let's hope they still have the vaccine instructions, having served their purpose after being read out at last week's briefing, and all that! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 12 minutes ago, The Old Git said: Guernsey said they received 975 doses, which I thought wasn’t a lot. Didn’t our lot imply that the 975 doses had to be watered down or similar and would presumably make more than 975 individual vaccinations? I’d have to listen to it again to be sure. No. It’s delivered in batches of 975 single dose ampoules. Originally it was said they couldn’t be subdivided, had to be defrosted to separate and distribute to different administering centres, but that temperature control made that difficult. I read they are being more flexible. But no, it’s not “watered down” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Just now, Gladys said: Let's hope they still have the vaccine instructions, having served their purpose after being read out at last week's briefing, and all that! Too late. Shredded. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Darn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 54 minutes ago, John Wright said: No. It’s delivered in batches of 975 single dose ampoules. Originally it was said they couldn’t be subdivided, had to be defrosted to separate and distribute to different administering centres, but that temperature control made that difficult. I read they are being more flexible. But no, it’s not “watered down” I thought the doses had to be diluted to be administered, not watered down to make more doses. A bit like concentrated orange juice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Just now, Gladys said: I thought the doses had to be diluted to be administered, not watered down to make more doses. A bit like concentrated orange juice. No but they have to be taken out of -70c temperature before they use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Banker said: No but they have to be taken out of -70c temperature before they use Will they warm it up to body temperature first ? Mind you , the cold never bothered me anyway... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Based on this we should be able to travel to England soon if that tail spikes downwards.. Not Wales mind and we should already be allowed to travel to Scotland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanxpilot Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 hour ago, John Wright said: No. It’s delivered in batches of 975 single dose ampoules. Originally it was said they couldn’t be subdivided, had to be defrosted to separate and distribute to different administering centres, but that temperature control made that difficult. I read they are being more flexible. But no, it’s not “watered down” From the UK Gov Vaccine handbook: 'Each pack of the Pfizer BioNTech COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 contains 195 vials with 5 doses per vial (975 doses per pack). It is supplied with 0.9% sodium chloride diluent for injection plastic ampoules. After dilution, the vaccine should be kept at 2°C to 25°C and used within 6 hours. Any unused vaccine should be discarded.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 This is worth a read if you have the time, from yesterdays Sunday Times (archive link to avoid paywall) https://archive.vn/UWnAm#selection-995.212-999.316 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 47 minutes ago, NoTailT said: Based on this we should be able to travel to England soon if that tail spikes downwards.. Not Wales mind and we should already be allowed to travel to Scotland? I wouldn’t risk travelling to London just yet - infection numbers skyrocketing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, Uhtred said: I wouldn’t risk travelling to London just yet - infection numbers skyrocketing. Crawley where Gatwick is located is one of lowest areas, it’s the London boroughs eg haringhey etc. Also Liverpool & Lancaster much lower now, didn’t Howie use high rates in those areas as reason not to allow families in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 59 minutes ago, NoTailT said: Based on this we should be able to travel to England soon if that tail spikes downwards.. Not Wales mind and we should already be allowed to travel to Scotland? That's daily incidence, not point prevalence. Multiply by a number somewhere between 8 and 14 to get the figure you're interested in. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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