AcousticallyChallenged Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Nom de plume said: I think I’d listen to Witty, Valance & JVT. If they believe the risk is negligible then so do I. The risk profile is entirely different. To maybe simplify it, as you seem to be struggling with Wrighty's explanation. In the UK, there's a certain amount of COVID, assume it's 1 in 100 for ease. That means 1 in every hundred people have it and might pass it on. Now, assume they're arriving from foreign lands, where it's also 1 in 100, or lower. There's no more chance of the virus being brought in, than it would for someone to be picking it up in the supermarkets. Now assume that person is going out and about after 5 days, they'll be wearing a mask, social distancing, plied with hand sanitiser etc. There will also be a low level of immunity around from people who have had the virus. Each step makes the traveller less of a risk. Plus, everyone is just as likely to get it from someone that has been in the UK anyway. Isolating travellers over there is really trying to use a hosepipe to extinguish a forest fire. But it might just keep it off your lawn. Now, assume that the same person comes over here and does that. Nobody is social distancing or wearing a mask, there's minimal use of hand sanitiser compared to across and not that many people here have had it. In other words, it'd easily spread like wildfire, and that's a risk we can manage through isolation. The choices are social distancing, masks etc. or having the personal freedoms we have at the moment. It's doing a lot of local hospitality a lot of good to have the latter, look how rammed the better restaurants are. They'd be doing half the tables, if that, with any measures in place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 34 minutes ago, Lagman said: I know someone who got back a few days ago. Wednesday last week is a few days ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 15 hours ago, Gladys said: Did they ever find the trawler that Molyneux "chartered" to flee Manx justice earlier this year? Perhaps there is a trawler owner doing a good trade in smuggling people to and from the island? Didn't he get done? He got a reasonably strict penalty for it didn't he? Jetski chappy must've entered the island after leaving, otherwise, he'd not be doing his 4 weeks at her majesty's pleasure. But the odds of it being on a jetski in the Irish Sea in winter? They've got to be slim. You have to wonder if it's being taken at face value for other reasons. The drugs supply over here must be drying up now with all the postal seizures and lack of people coming to and fro. Lots of money to be made by finding other ways in. Maybe he took a similar route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, AcousticallyChallenged said: Didn't he get done? He got a reasonably strict penalty for it didn't he? Jetski chappy must've entered the island after leaving, otherwise, he'd not be doing his 4 weeks at her majesty's pleasure. But the odds of it being on a jetski in the Irish Sea in winter? They've got to be slim. You have to wonder if it's being taken at face value for other reasons. The drugs supply over here must be drying up now with all the postal seizures and lack of people coming to and fro. Lots of money to be made by finding other ways in. Maybe he took a similar route. Yes, he "got done", but no news about the trawler owner turned charterer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gladys said: Yes, he "got done", but no news about the trawler owner turned charterer. I thought the captain in question was done too. Though I can't find the article about it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Barlow said: The dad who took a jet ski to the Isle of Man is being discussed on Jeremy Vine BBC Radio 2 at 12:00 "The Isle of Man government should be running the whole UK" hahahahaha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Git Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Roughly what time was it on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 6 hours ago, Nom de plume said: I’m afraid it is a joke now. They do not trust the people who voted them in to travel & be sensible. That is what they are saying indirectly. It shouldn’t be forgotten. Yes they do. Anyone is free to travel off island and return if they do the sensible thing and isolate for 14 days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Last quarter of the program, half 1 ish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b4mbi Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 hour ago, TheTeapot said: "The Isle of Man government should be running the whole UK" hahahahaha what?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadAsHell Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 He even posed for the camera! http://www.iomtoday.co.im/article.cfm?id=59590&headline=Exclusive%3A+Moment+jet+ski+Romeo+arrives+in+Ramsey§ionIs=news&searchyear=2020&fbclid=IwAR2L6tRJtESPUKJBNxrbgt9qltBZkUNsjyqYJGQVov0fS-S43XoDeKqj1EQ#readComments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 hour ago, TheTeapot said: "The Isle of Man government should be running the whole UK" hahahahaha Cregeen will use that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 An average jet ski can run around 1-2 hours on a tank of gas, if you ride it at full speed. If you ride it at best cruise speed, you can expect to ride a jet ski for 4-7 hours before you need to refill. Given the inclement weather last Friday, he did very well to get here... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, Neil Down said: An average jet ski can run around 1-2 hours on a tank of gas, if you ride it at full speed. If you ride it at best cruise speed, you can expect to ride a jet ski for 4-7 hours before you need to refill. Given the inclement weather last Friday, he did very well to get here... Indeed. According to the article: At 8am on Friday he set off on the treacherous journey across the Irish Sea. He had expected it to take 40 minutes. But due to bad weather it took him four and a half hours. A police source told iomtoday that the jet skier had just 10 minutes of fuel left in his tank when he arrived. I'm still calling bullshit on the walk though - someone must have given him a lift and he obviously didn't want to drop them in it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 6 hours ago, John Wright said: I think that the highest proportion of positives during isolation belongs to the sub group of patient transfers. But we don’t blame them. Or jump to conclusions. Could these potentially be hospital acquired infections then? Either here on from across? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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