pongo Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Black Mirror said: The truth is that Boris needed an excuse to lockdown again and scare the English public into submission Why? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, pongo said: Why? It's all part of the Illuminati plan innit? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackajah Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 2 hours ago, NoTailT said: Of the ~30 something people I know who have had to self isolate having returned to the Island, only 2 of them were ever checked up on. Phone call or physical. The rest, absolutely nothing. This is what should be worrying people - that checks are apparently NOT being carried out. If anything will result in covid escaping into the community here, it's this - well in addition to people breaking quarantine in the first place Is everyone quarantining supposed to be checked up on randomly, or just some of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Just now, Blackajah said: This is what should be worrying people - that checks are apparently NOT being carried out. If anything will result in covid escaping into the community here, it's this - well in addition to people breaking quarantine in the first place Is everyone quarantining supposed to be checked up on randomly, or just some of them? It's the Christmas break - most of the checkers are probably on holiday by now. #We'rebusydoin'nothin'Workin'thewholedaythroughryin'tofindlotsofthingsnottodo #I'malrightjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 The fact that the UK has just been effectively shut out of Europe just as the Brexit negotiations are all going to shit, seems like a convenient coincidence. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 The toff cough variant shall kill us all. I expect severe sanctions over this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Mirror Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, AcousticallyChallenged said: If this was a political thing, with the scary new strain being overblown, nowhere else would be banning travel from the UK. 1 hour ago, pongo said: Why? 1 hour ago, slinkydevil said: It's all part of the Illuminati plan innit? 20 minutes ago, The Phantom said: The fact that the UK has just been effectively shut out of Europe just as the Brexit negotiations are all going to shit, seems like a convenient coincidence. Let me quote what Ambrose Evans-Pritchard has just written in regard to this matter: Emmanuel Macron’s ban on lorries entering France wins the prize for the most pointless political gesture since the onset of this pandemic. The mutant strain B.1.1.7 is already all over Europe. British scientists spotted it early and have tracked it in real-time because the UK has carried out almost as much genome sequencing of Covid-19 as the rest of the world combined. Harvard epidemiologist William Hanage says the UK has the most advanced genomic monitoring regime on the planet. Denmark is one of the few other states in Europe that also does extensive and rapid sequencing. Lo and behold, the Danes have found the same mutation. Many countries do little or no genomic sequencing at all. It stretches credulity to imagine that a variant picked up in samples as far back as September is not already rampant in Belgium, the Netherlands, Italy, and indeed France. It had months to run when borders were wide open, long before the second lockdowns. The spectacle of Britain cut off from the world as a leper-state in viral quarantine is unlikely to last more than a few days. [. . .] Christian Drosten, Angela’s Merkel’s pandemic guru, says the mutation is almost certainly spreading in Germany already and he is sceptical about the data interpretation by Prof Neil Ferguson’s team at Imperial. “I am not particularly worried,” he told Deutschlandfunk, taking a gentle swipe at headline bio-hysteria. [. . .] Prof Andreas Bergthaler from the Austrian Academy of Sciences is equally sceptical, playing down what he called “insane alarmism” and insisting that it is still too early to know whether the new strain fundamentally changes the pathogen. Please note that the fact that I felt about quoting him on this matter does not mean that I agree with his other views on economics etc, which I sometimes find a bit outlandish. However, it doesn't take much to figure out what he writes on the above. It is my firm opinion that this strain is nothing peculiar or consequential within the great picture of Covid-19. And that Boris Johnson's motivations are just as political as Macron's. I also find some of you as naive: taking at face value whatever the government present you with. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Black Mirror said: I also find some of you as naive: taking at face value whatever the government present you with. That includes the Indian and Canadian governments too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Black Mirror said: I also find some of you as naive: taking at face value whatever the government present you with. I think it's naive to follow all the conspiracy theories. Look at flat earthers. Pick up a HAM radio and you can readily disprove it. Occam's razor is a magical thing. Simplest explanation usually hits the nail on the head. Tory incompetence. If you can hardly get a bin from the local council, then you'd be hard pressed to expect some fundamental global conspiracy kept under wraps by the sorts of middle management that run government behind the scenes. Countries like Russia and the DPRK would jump at the opportunity to be able to point out that the West were making it all up. And realistically, if you were as close as you thought to some conspiracy that existed, you wouldn't hear everyone singing about it on Facebook for very long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Dominant in South Africa now too. https://www.capetownetc.com/news/new-covid-19-variant-is-dominant-in-south-africa/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trench12 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Travelled off island a couple of times, on return got phone call after each trip and visit on one occaision. next door neighbour has been away twice, no phone call, no visit seems a bit lax and shambolic given the numbers of returnees and staff they have available 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, trench12 said: Travelled off island a couple of times, on return got phone call after each trip and visit on one occaision. next door neighbour has been away twice, no phone call, no visit seems a bit lax and shambolic given the numbers of returnees and staff they have available Didn't many of the tracers employed in UK only work 1% of the time. This working from home is a nice little doddle. Every time I phone up my bank, insurance etc I am sure the home workers are watching a Netflx,and just waiting until the end of the film before they get off the settee and answer the fucking phone. Edited December 21, 2020 by Barlow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 4 hours ago, Banker said: https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/border-policy-under-review-due-to-new-covid-strain/ talks about 10 days testing as well They will wait until Boris sets it all out at 5 pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Sounds like the new strain probably started in Europe so they’ve got a bloody cheek closing borders 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 The new strain probably arrived in the UK in a rubber dinghy. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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