IOM Covid removing restrictions

[Douglas2020]

44 minutes ago, Banker said:

I take it the new case wasn’t tested at 13 days before release from quarantine as done 14 days under old system, I thought everyone was now being tested no matter when they arrived?

Unfortunately the new guidance on 14 day/21 day isolation issued on Tuesday 22nd was only 'For people who are not already in possession of an exemption certificate or direction notice', so would only impact people arriving after.

[maybestayover]

43 minutes ago, Banker said:

I take it the new case wasn’t tested at 13 days before release from quarantine as done 14 days under old system, I thought everyone was now being tested no matter when they arrived?

There was no testing under the old system - only a voluntary one at 7 days.  The arrival test was only introduced around 23 Dec; this ‘patient’ arrived before 23 Dec, therefore was not tested.  They probably would not have returned a positive test on day 1 anyhow as the likelihood of showing symptoms 14+ days after infection (in the UK) would be zero(ish).  They were most probably infected here.

[Banker]

4 minutes ago, maybestayover said:

There was no testing under the old system - only a voluntary one at 7 days.  The arrival test was only introduced around 23 Dec; this ‘patient’ arrived before 23 Dec, therefore was not tested.  They probably would not have returned a positive test on day 1 anyhow as the likelihood of showing symptoms 14+ days after infection (in the UK) would be zero(ish).  They were most probably infected here.

Couldn’t have got  infected on Iom as they were in quarantine , if they had been tested day13 would have shown positive and stopped panic 

[John Wright]

55 minutes ago, Banker said:

I take it the new case wasn’t tested at 13 days before release from quarantine as done 14 days under old system, I thought everyone was now being tested no matter when they arrived?

Only those arriving after 00.01 on 23/12

[snowman]

Surprising number of people can't read or comprehend 

[pongo]

I'm not convinced that people with symptoms will necessarily get themselves tested. Or even think to.

A precautionary lockdown might make sense now. If only for a month or so.

[horatiotheturd]

1 hour ago, Banker said:

I take it the new case wasn’t tested at 13 days before release from quarantine as done 14 days under old system, I thought everyone was now being tested no matter when they arrived?

Love to see them justify why we weren't testing people in isolation  and again before the end of 14 days now.

Should have been doing it from day one together with putting proper track and trace in place.

Instead we now have had people wandering about in packed places with no social distancing and absolutely no way of knowing who they have been in contact with.

Total disgrace bordering on criminal negligence if this blows up after all the sacrifices people have made and short of "gold standard" isolation and draconian jail terms we are 9 months in with no proper systems in place.  Plus we are behind on the vaccinations so zero protection there either as not a single one given out yet.

So near to doing well and screwed it up through lack of testing and no tracing system, which are about the only things we could actually learn from other countries 

[horatiotheturd]

4 minutes ago, pongo said:

I'm not convinced that people with symptoms will necessarily get themselves tested. Or even think to.

A precautionary lockdown might make sense now. If only for a month or so.

"Only for a month or so"  just pit a few more people out of business or on the bread line then?

Imagine if they had spent what a lockdown would potentially cost in a proper tracking system that we had al been using since June

[Non-Believer]

3 hours wandering around 1886 between 11pm on Boxing Day and 2am the following morning may give a track and trace headache?

[jaymann]

2 minutes ago, horatiotheturd said:

"Only for a month or so"  just pit a few more people out of business or on the bread line then?

Imagine if they had spent what a lockdown would potentially cost in a proper tracking system that we had al been using since June

Ding ding ding, we have a winner.

At a guess, I'd say 95% of people in 1886 would have had some kind of mobile device with them.

Failure to invest in any track and trace technology is reckless and negligent on the part of the Government. Even a simple QR 'check in' rather than the real close contact tracing.

I don't think using the standard 15 minutes within 2 metres as an assessment of a contact is appropriate. We won't know for a few days - until the genome sequencing comes back - if this index has the new super spreading strain. If they do, that 15mins 2 metres is a waste of time and as I said previously, we will become just like Jersey.

I hope of course the spread turns out not to happen and the Gov manage to fluke their way through their failings again, for the sake of the Island.

[horatiotheturd]

2 minutes ago, jaymann said:

Ding ding ding, we have a winner.

At a guess, I'd say 95% of people in 1886 would have had some kind of mobile device with them.

Failure to invest in any track and trace technology is reckless and negligent on the part of the Government. Even a simple QR 'check in' rather than the real close contact tracing.

I don't think using the standard 15 minutes within 2 metres as an assessment of a contact is appropriate. We won't know for a few days - until the genome sequencing comes back - if this index has the new super spreading strain. If they do, that 15mins 2 metres is a waste of time and as I said previously, we will become just like Jersey.

I hope of course the spread turns out not to happen and the Gov manage to fluke their way through their failings again, for the sake of the Island.

Negligent is the truth.  As soon as these people showed symptoms and needed a test people could have at least been put on notice to be more vigilant for symptoms etc, then the instant the positive test came back everyone who needed it could have had a notification and then not been out socialising since.

Pretty much every other country in the world has managed it.  Even the UK.

But nope, not us.  Heads in the sand, send people to prison, and sit back and bask in the glory of being "COVID free"

If this blow up we are actually on the back foot compared to other countries which is a disgrace.

[Nom de plume]

Are we now accepting we have a community case?

[horatiotheturd]

Just now, Nom de plume said:

Are we now accepting we have a community case?

There isn't one yet from the info provided

[jaymann]

1 minute ago, Nom de plume said:

Are we now accepting we have a community case?

It won't be classed as a community case as they can identify the index.

[Ham_N_Eggs]

2 minutes ago, jaymann said:

It won't be classed as a community case as they can identify the index.

And everyone else that gets ill from it also won't be classed as a community case if they can trace it back to this instance. No many how many people get it.