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6 minutes ago, Gladys said:

Do they wear negligees rather than jim jams when collecting their benefits then? (Witnessed at Anagh Coar Spar one Wednesday morning). 

I'm told (by a friend) you can get some really "fitted" onesies now.... 😂

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9 minutes ago, John Wright said:

Don’t you mean hyperbowl? Or didn’t you go to KWC?

As a friend of mine used to say...‘ Some men were educated at KWC, but significantly more merely attended’.

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24 minutes ago, jaymann said:

We only have - as I recall - 16 rapid tests available to us every day, which were reserved for key workers. Maybe I'm mistaken on my understanding of this.

They were never reserved for 'key workers', they were supposed to be for emergencies - usually for patients admitted to Nobles who needed urgent treatment and whose Covid status needed to be known more or less straight away.  Of course it's possible that they also ended up being used so the 'right' sort of people didn't have to wait around for results, but emergencies was what they were meant for.

 

19 minutes ago, AcousticallyChallenged said:

They’re using 1 hour LAMP tests aren’t they for the rapid tests? 

UK Gov reckons that has 79% accuracy and 100% specificity and “picks up those most likely to pass on an infection” 

They might have improved, but the UK Gov is as usual saying what it would like to be true rather than what is.  When they were used in November they were pretty useless:

Scientists with Greater Manchester’s mass testing expert group (MTEG) raised significant concerns about the accuracy of the OptiGene Direct RT-Lamp tests this week, and said the technology should not be widely used as intended in hospitals or care homes.

[...] In a letter seen by the Guardian, they wrote: “The current available data from the Manchester pilot shows low sensitivity (46.7%) of the Direct RT-Lamp platform,” which is favoured for use in hospitals because of its ability to produce results in around 20 minutes.

So they were picking up less than half of those infect with Covid-19.  I think they were also very sensitive to who carried out the test, to get the best results you needed the most highly trained lab staff, which of course defeats the point of it being used for mass tresting.

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30 minutes ago, Roxanne said:

 

 

 

Would someone please explain to me why 'the risk to the public is extremely low' when we've had infected individuals socialising at the busiest time of year?

it is said in the same way that certain things are 'rare' on island.

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Please can someone answer me this question......hypothetically if I came in contact with the person in 1886 and somehow they managed to pass it on to me.  How long would it take for me to be infectious? Is it more than 5/6 days?  If it’s less what’s the point of letting people know about this 5 or 6 days after as if they passed it on they could have passed it to someone else and it’s already too late?

 

I assume because we haven’t had a huge spate of increase in cases this didn’t happen?

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14 minutes ago, Nomadic Raptor said:

Please can someone answer me this question......hypothetically if I came in contact with the person in 1886 and somehow they managed to pass it on to me.  How long would it take for me to be infectious? Is it more than 5/6 days?  If it’s less what’s the point of letting people know about this 5 or 6 days after as if they passed it on they could have passed it to someone else and it’s already too late?

 

I assume because we haven’t had a huge spate of increase in cases this didn’t happen?

As the index proves, it could be up to 18 days later, sometimes longer.

If you watch @rachomics video on YT it shows the averages of cases flagging positive. I think it is around 10 days on the Island historically.

The other issue is the high percentage of younger people in 1886 who are more likely to be asymptomatic and you may not see the ripple for another 3-4 weeks.

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38 minutes ago, Nomadic Raptor said:

Please can someone answer me this question......hypothetically if I came in contact with the person in 1886 and somehow they managed to pass it on to me.  How long would it take for me to be infectious? Is it more than 5/6 days?  If it’s less what’s the point of letting people know about this 5 or 6 days after as if they passed it on they could have passed it to someone else and it’s already too late?

 

I assume because we haven’t had a huge spate of increase in cases this didn’t happen?

As you’ve already said you might not show any signs of Covid so we wouldn’t actually know until you pass it onto someone else who does go on to show symptoms.

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42 minutes ago, Nomadic Raptor said:

Please can someone answer me this question......hypothetically if I came in contact with the person in 1886 and somehow they managed to pass it on to me.  How long would it take for me to be infectious? Is it more than 5/6 days?  If it’s less what’s the point of letting people know about this 5 or 6 days after as if they passed it on they could have passed it to someone else and it’s already too late?

 

I assume because we haven’t had a huge spate of increase in cases this didn’t happen?

There's time yet

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Boxing Day night was nearly a week ago already, IF there was any contagion on the night Lord knows how far it might have gone by now with everybody so happy and confident in our virus free status, parties, clubs, mixing; including the big one last night. If there's a 14 day plus incubation period, plus asymptomatic carriers, nobody can know.

Would the wise thing to do now be impose a 21 day "circuit-breaker"?

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