horatiotheturd Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Absolutely. And also hope that not too many of the 1886 patrons that night came from outside Douglas. Of course they did. Hundreds of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha-acid Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 18 minutes ago, AcousticallyChallenged said: It's not a bad reminder to be prudent though. There's sanitiser in almost every shop, take advantage of that etc. I was in Dreambird about a week ago, and they were actually collecting details for contact tracing. In light of what might've happened in 1886, it's not a bad idea at all. They have being doing that long before this incident Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, alpha-acid said: They have being doing that long before this incident Good on them for that. As I stand inside Tesco, spraying my trolley and sanitizing my hands about 10 just walk on by. Same in shoprite. People have stopped caring, much to the detriment of the rest of us IMO Edited January 1, 2021 by dilligaf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenFairfax Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Wife and daughter were christmas shopping all day in Douglas on 23rd and want me to tell them probability of being infected and I have no clear idea. I know it is not 0%.... What concerns me is on 26th in 1886, and if infected others, after 4 day virus incubation I assume such people would be back out last night. Social network group growth is a power function. On paper this seeding event from COVID point is view was both perfectly timed, and found ideal agents. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha-acid Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Just now, dilligaf said: Good on them for that. As I stand inside Tesco, spraying my trolley Nd sanitizing my hands about 10 just walk on by. Same in shoprite. People have stopped caring, much to the detriment of the rest of us IMO We agree for once 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 23 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: A long way from any steps is what got the UK into the shitstorm it's now in. Late responses, Wackamoles, ever expanding tiers. None of it has worked. We have the opportunity not to replicate that. A short local lockdown until things are proven one way or the other will be far less damaging than a local epidemic which might go on for months with hospital facilities overwhelmed, considering our demographic too. You cant just have a lockdown put people's jobs at risks etc on a what if. All common sense surrounding covid seems to have been lost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, horatiotheturd said: Of course they did. Hundreds of them Precisely. And who got infected and who didn't? Who took it back home and to work and back down the pub and who didn't? Nobody knows, nor will they until the initial spread incubation finishes in ten or so days. So what do we do, take a chance? If it's all clear, great. But what if it's not and the cases start to rise with the hospital bed percentage? This virus has repeatedly proven that it moves faster than Govts can deal with it, nor is it any respecter of political or economic expediency. We can learn from that. Until vaccines are fully online and administered, our levers to pull are limited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodycomeover Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) Edited April 16, 2021 by bloodycomeover 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybestayover Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 9 hours ago, Banker said: Couldn’t have got infected on Iom as they were in quarantine , if they had been tested day13 would have shown positive and stopped panic Ah but they could have been infected by someone who was also not ‘obeying’ the rules, on the IOM - there are plenty, from all walks of life, who think the the rules do not apply to them. More likely than being asymptomatic for 14+ days and then presenting with symptoms. It is not fairy dust that infects - and they were in isolation, not quarantine, so no control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatiotheturd Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, bloodycomeover said: How did kicking the can and putting off the inevitable work for the UK? We have already shown that you can get a reasonable level of cases (and unfortunately deaths) and then by locking down eradicate again. However the consequences of the lockdown required to do that are pretty severe. If theyvsee a big rise in transmission and hospital admissions then make that call. It wojld be far too cautious to lockdown based on "what ifs". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 22 minutes ago, alpha-acid said: We agree for once Trying to take a step back from my polarized views. Happy New Year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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maybestayover Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 4 hours ago, jaymann said: I'm not entirely sure how effective that is. They may not test positive today, but could in 3 days time? Creates a false sense of security. If the swabs are taken correctly (a weak link) and the RT PCR test is conducted properly, ie 25 cycles MAX, then if there is any virus RNA present then a positive result will be achieved. If there is no virus RNA present then, quite correctly, a negative result will be indicated. Again, no magical fairy dust, only science. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, maybestayover said: If the swabs are taken correctly (a weak link) and the RT PCR test is conducted properly, ie 25 cycles MAX, then if there is any virus RNA present then a positive result will be achieved. If there is no virus RNA present then, quite correctly, a negative result will be indicated. Again, no magical fairy dust, only science. Isn't the whole point that you have to be shedding to be detectable? Until that point, you will test negative despite exposure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, maybestayover said: If the swabs are taken correctly (a weak link) and the RT PCR test is conducted properly, ie 25 cycles MAX, then if there is any virus RNA present then a positive result will be achieved. If there is no virus RNA present then, quite correctly, a negative result will be indicated. Again, no magical fairy dust, only science. Another new expert. Welcome aboard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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