asitis Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 This boils my piss ........ it is indeed Comindara as suggested ...... Members mentioned this in the earlier debate about the Eastern Area Plan. You may wonder, what does this have to do with this debate? Well, I can tell you that the Cabinet Office has already issued an exemption certificate for the developers. The developers wish to bring over an archaeologist to come across and help them work up this greenfield scheme. Whilst I cannot ignore the fact that the Cabinet Office is falling over backwards to help a developer to develop a large greenfield site, for the purposes of this debate I would challenge: why is it appropriate that we issued an exemption certificate for an archaeologist, who will not be tested, when the rest of the population in the Isle of Man has not been allowed to see immediate family since March? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Gladys said: Why wouldn't testing on day 13 have worked in the first case? I thought the theory was that the person was infected by another household member? If they had both been tested before the end of isolation, there would have been a positive. Or have I missed something? The day 1/13 would have worked in both recent cases as both were 14 days isolation with no test. I would expect Chris Thomas & others will raise the failures in Tynwald 19/01 when the regulations need formal approval Edited January 9, 2021 by Banker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 7 hours ago, Annoymouse said: Originally it wasn’t the whole household isolating, only the person returning was required to isolate so it was something of a ticking time bomb really, in that instance even 21 days might not have been enough, if there were say 3 or 4 people in the household contracting the virus at different stages. Rather strangely though it worked. More by chance I guess as I agree it was flawed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Howie even closing the toilets!! Be a few fines from the COVID squads for pissing in the bushes!! https://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/toilets-closed-for-lockdown-period/?fbclid=IwAR3mUA9Zyw1PfIyzWcTNhJvrwDzKfYZ9PtDdoKoWjkKF56PURn__YgluMoM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 I’m so glad people here (intelligent people in the main) are seeing this Government for what it really is in regards to their response to this pandemic. Quayle & Ashford have been found out & they are like cornered animals trying to scratch & defend to the end. There are dissenting voices in CoMin too believe me. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatiotheturd Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 30 minutes ago, Nom de plume said: I’m so glad people here (intelligent people in the main) are seeing this Government for what it really is in regards to their response to this pandemic. Quayle & Ashford have been found out & they are like cornered animals trying to scratch & defend to the end. There are dissenting voices in CoMin too believe me. They have done an absolutely awful job, all based around boosting their own egos more than anything else. Be a brave politocian who stands up and says it though as with their self indulgent press briefings etc they have convinced the Manx public that they are gods and it couldn't have been handled any other way Never been so angry about anything political in my life 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Rushen Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 10 hours ago, horatiotheturd said: So explain to me why my relatives who want to come here and spend time with their family can't do so if they are prepared to isolate and take all the required tests. There is no justification and its inhumane In the U.K. my relatives cannot visit their relatives 10 miles away! 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Major Rushen said: In the U.K. my relatives cannot visit their relatives 10 miles away! The problem is, 60,000+ people are being infected everyday - which suggests many people are visiting many people all the time! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Major Rushen said: In the U.K. my relatives cannot visit their relatives 10 miles away! That's now but 4/5 months ago when it was a bit better family were only allowed here under special circumstances. We tried to get the in laws over but were refused. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyingfemme Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 The “lock in”, as opposed to “lockdown” strategy has worked for NZ and Oz because they are far less reliant on outside help. The IOM is not self sufficient in anything - hence the import of specialists and the export of medical patients. This is the achilles heel. It has been, as previously suggested, a good place to be based but lack of ability to travel makes it far less enticing to many. Plenty of things cannot be done remotely and those with money want ways to spend/enjoy that money. Not available on the island. The rock is in danger of becoming a ghetto of low paid service providers and HNWI (the retired sort who don’t need to visit the source of that wealth). Robust systems to enable travel would help but those in charge are incapable of providing these systems. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Paul Moulton alluding on Twitter to a press release / briefing this morning confirming “new unexplained cases” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) Positive test on a child who attended school this week apparently Edit. St Marys primary school per a tweet from the gov. Edited January 9, 2021 by Dave Hedgehog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De nada Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 NEWS RELEASE - 09 January 2021 Two new cases of COVID-19 detected Two new cases of COVID-19 have been detected in the Isle of Man. As yet, no source of transmission has been identified, however the two travel related clusters announced on New Year’s Eve and Tuesday 5 January, are the most likely cause. Contact tracing continues. This means that, despite efforts to contain the spread, the COVID-19 virus may be circulating in the community. The first case is a pupil at St Mary’s Primary School in Douglas. They attended school on Tuesday and Wednesday. They had no signs or symptoms of the virus, which was identified from a pre-admission screening test ahead of a medical procedure. The child and other members of their household are now self-isolating for 14 days. Other members of the household were offered rapid testing last night and the results came back negative. The family will be offered further testing before release from self-isolation. No further secondary transmission has been identified so far but there is a chance that the child may have been positive whilst at school on Tuesday and Wednesday. The school’s headteacher has been informed and the contact details of pupils as well as the teaching and support staff potentially affected have been passed to the COVID-111 service. Calls to those affected have commenced and will continue through the day. Everyone who attends or works at St Mary’s Primary School should self-isolate today, along with other members of their household. This is a precaution whilst the COVID-111 team contacts those potentially affected. Those who attend or work at the school are asked not to contact COVID-111. All contacts should have been reached today. Any household with someone who attends or works at the school who has not heard from the COVID-111 team by the end of the day today can leave self-isolation tomorrow. The second case is an individual who developed symptoms and contacted the COVID-111 service for advice and to arrange a test. They are now self-isolating for 14 days. The other household members were offered rapid testing last night and the results came back negative. They are self-isolating along with the confirmed case and will be offered further testing. Chief Minister, Howard Quayle MHK, said: “Although there were encouraging signs that we may have contained the virus and prevented community spread, we knew it was early days and that we were far from out of the woods. Sadly, what the Island has worked so hard to avoid, may have come to pass. The case involving St Mary’s Primary School in particular will cause understandable concern for pupils, parents and staff, as well as the wider public. The Council of Ministers met late last night and again this morning and will continue to review as more information becomes available. Members of Tynwald were briefing early this morning.” “I would ask the public to remain calm. I will hold a COVID-19 briefing this afternoon to provide an update on developments.” Director of Public Health, Dr Henrietta Ewart, said: “The risk posed to children by COVID-19 is, generally, low. The majority of children who catch the virus tend to experience no symptoms or very mild ones. But they can spread the virus. “The most important action people can take is to help stop the chain of transmission. Self-isolation and robust contact tracing are critical to these efforts. But we really need everyone to play their part: scrupulous hand and respiratory hygiene, social distancing, face coverings when outside where possible, but most important of all, if you can, please stay at home.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Government got us to where we were by luck alone ! It appears that may have run out ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 The chickens are coming home to roost. Stay safe & remain vigilant everyone. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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