John Wright Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Whether by design or luck, after the initial surge in March/April 2020, and the very unfortunate Abbottswood deaths, they’ve actually achieved a very good result. We were told that even with 14 days isolation, the gold standard, there was a very small risk. It’s all about risk assessment in a pandemic containment plan. You can’t completely avoid, not without total cut off from the outside world. And that brings its own risks. So you have to balance. One of the plans they’ve had, from very early on after community spread was eliminated in June, was a short sharp circuit breaker if Covid reappeared. That’s just what they’ve done. That being said I do have criticisms. The advice, anonymised, should be released, in précis, no more than 4 weeks in arrears. All our criticism is based on assumptions and what we are told by one person. That person, with all their qualifications and experience, wasn’t a government adviser as such. And has obviously strong views and, at present, an axe to grind. Advocates have been engaged, and there’s a polite social media fisticuffs going on. Presentational skills are terrible. Howie and Ashie have taken the lead. They shouldn’t. We needed a good government spokesman, plus experts. That’s resulted in mixed messages, contradictions, retractions, and lack of confidence/trust. Then we have the statistics, or lack of them, and their total unreliability. Other jurisdictions have been much more surefooted and clear, and better at openness and number crunching. They’ve just admitted on MR that they don’t know the break down between community testing and the rest. Why? They should have it clearly recorded, patient transfer, Patient pre admission ( broken down between Nobles and off island), key workers ( infrastructure and medical/social care ), returning residents, new contractual residents, travellers. They also need the day 1, 7 and 13. I can’t see the need for borders being closed if we have a consistent and safe and secure isolate and test policy. The same policy should apply whichever reason the arrivals are using. All arrivals should test day 1, 6/7 and 13. All arrivals in a family group should isolate together and away from the rest of their household, unless all household members are to be tested. I never understood the 7 day testing and partial isolation release. Can’t see it did anything. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said: Josem, aimee burns, that guy that lives off grid, pullyman, tony mepham dot tilbury and geoffrey from the spectrum winder ads. Incredible. You have actually managed to come up with a list that would make things WORSE. Some list that stinky. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Oh, and phil gawne conducting 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Just now, Roxanne said: We knew it could come to this. Dr G knew it could come to this. What do we do now? Riot. Socially distanced of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Roxanne said: We knew it could come to this. Dr G knew it could come to this. What do we do now? Hide behind the sofa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Roxanne said: We knew it could come to this. Dr G knew it could come to this. What do we do now? Capitol Building... ETA. Sorry, just saw your above post Edited January 9, 2021 by Non-Believer extra bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, Roxanne said: I’m not painting my face and wearing horns. I just want to make that clear. Oh I don't know. Someone dressed like a cow might be the only thing Howard listens to. This would explain so much.... 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Rushen Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 33 minutes ago, horatiotheturd said: Point is if the government had done their job you would be able to go and see them. There is no reason people can't travel here and test. None at all They should stay in their own homes like everyone here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 28 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said: Josem, Just seen his photo opportunity shot, for his new job. Shelf stacker/packer at the Co-op Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, monasqueen said: There are any number of people about with shit stories about relatives. That's why people should avoid getting personal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 32 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said: Josem, aimee burns, that guy that lives off grid, pullyman, tony mepham dot tilbury and geoffrey from the spectrum winder ads. Don't forget that lass with the big lungs and all the Xmas presents. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Gladys said: This is exactly the issue. We had the ability to be right on top of it and could be right on top of tracking variants. But, for some inexplicable reason, the person who has that expertise has been binned. There needs to be full disclosure and accountability on this. GDPR and commercial confidentiality takes second place when the community's health, wealth and wellbeing is at stake. Are you sure we could do the tracking of variants? Not saying you are wrong but I was not aware of this. It's a significant fact if it is true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Just now, Non-Believer said: Don't forget that lass with the big lungs and all the Xmas presents. Jet ski guy and girlfriend, nottie, Barrie and woody2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Don't forget that lass with the big lungs and all the Xmas presents. Future Treasury Minister. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaymann Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, John Wright said: Just seen his photo opportunity shot, for his new job. Shelf stacker/packer at the Co-op Surprised to see you making a low blow at the guy, very surprised.. JW. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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