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1 minute ago, Happier diner said:

Are you sure we could do the tracking of variants? Not saying you are wrong but I was not aware of this.

It's a significant fact if it is true

Rachel’s says she would have been able to. And I don’t doubt her. The emphasis on identifying and tracking variant may detract from the main task.

We are told that 70% of all the genomic testing on Covid in the world has been in UK. So it’s not surprising UK variant is widely identified and reported in UK.

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32 minutes ago, John Wright said:

 

I can’t see the need for borders being closed if we have a consistent and safe and secure isolate and test policy. The same policy should apply whichever reason the arrivals are using. All arrivals should test day 1, 6/7 and 13. All arrivals in a family group should isolate together and away from the rest of their household, unless all household members are to be tested.

I never understood the  7 day testing and partial isolation release. Can’t see it did anything. 

 

This is always going to be a weak spot. 

Without wanting to sound hysterical....bring back a Comis type scenario for returnees?

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10 minutes ago, John Wright said:

Rachel’s says she would have been able to. And I don’t doubt her. The emphasis on identifying and tracking variant may detract from the main task.

We are told that 70% of all the genomic testing on Covid in the world has been in UK. So it’s not surprising UK variant is widely identified and reported in UK.

Wooda? Coulda? Shoulda?

But you are right, if it wasn't available then we were right not to be wasting time doing specialist stuff like this. 

The emphasis, as you say, should be tracking infections.

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17 minutes ago, Barlow said:

 

This is always going to be a weak spot. 

Without wanting to sound hysterical....bring back a Comis type scenario for returnees?

Yes, and let people use it to visit family.

Base it in the UK if yiu want to be really overly cautious, that way anyone who does test positive or become ill isn't even a problem.

There are loads of ways we could be letting people travel

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26 minutes ago, John Wright said:

The advice, anonymised, should be released, in précis, no more than 4 weeks in arrears. All our criticism is based on assumptions and what we are told by one person. That person,  with all their qualifications and experience, wasn’t a government adviser as such. And has obviously strong views and, at present, an axe to grind. Advocates have been engaged, and there’s a polite social media fisticuffs going on.

Given that the only thing they could produce when Glover initially criticised their unwillingness to consider scientific advice was an 'anonymous' letter saying "Me haz hurt feelz", I suspect you'll be waiting a long time for evidenced justification of policy.  Indeed they seem to feel that even asking for such a thing is impudent at best.

When we occasionally glimpse where they got their information from (as with Ashford's 7% statistic), it's clear that they have no understanding of the purpose or context of what they are using and have just grabbed a random figure that happens to match what they have arbitrarily decided to do. 

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