Banker Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 No more new cases today according to government website at 4pm , 352 awaiting tests so assume a lot of the school & other positive contacts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatiotheturd Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 The who can who can't work scenario gets stranger everyday. Home deliveries of sweets ffs. A local business offering to come in and sort peoples wifi. But gardeners told they can't work in empty gardens and builders and electricians not allowed to work in empty houses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 29 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: I'm also uneasy about charging in these circumstances as it can lead to all sorts of problems. In practice charging for the tests may be what got us into this mess. If they had been free they could have been introduced for day 13 straight away and these cases might have been picked up - instead they actually only started on Monday. Quayle may have been boasting about Day 1 testing (even if it isn't happening then) but the Day 13 is the important one. I'll go with that. Considering what we are playing with here, there should be no charge for a procedure, the result of which could affect and cost us all - like now. The whole regime needs tightening up though. Obviously. Just look what we've lost. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatiotheturd Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Lots of talk in recent briefings about how it was always plan to eradicate. Really? I never heard mention of anything like that until after they had (accidently?) Achieved it, and its not sustainable going forward so when are they actual give us an exit plan. Social distancing. Masks. Isolation for people coming in with testing. A decent track and trace app and policy. Thats sustainable and achievable. Eradication of something that will be circulating in the rest of thebworlz and stupid travel restrictions isn't viable or sustainable 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanxpilot Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, horatiotheturd said: Lots of talk in recent briefings about how it was always plan to eradicate. Really? I never heard mention of anything like that until after they had (accidently?) Achieved it, and its not sustainable going forward so when are they actual give us an exit plan. Social distancing. Masks. Isolation for people coming in with testing. A decent track and trace app and policy. Thats sustainable and achievable. Eradication of something that will be circulating in the rest of thebworlz and stupid travel restrictions isn't viable or sustainable Surely the eradication policy will only be in force until the vulnerable have been vaccinated. After that, will it really matter if anyone catches it?. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 51 minutes ago, Annoymouse said: I don’t think they can upscale as they can only distribute what they’ve been given, perhaps the question should be ‘can we get our hands on any more stock’ We have stock. It's in the freezer and the fridge. He even told us this. We had it before Christmas. Are you David in disguise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 51 minutes ago, tetchtyke said: Our stock is whatever Public Health England give us, which is the problem. It's not the problem. We have it, we are just not using it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Nellie said: I can't believe that none of the journalists are asking "What efforts are being made to accelerate the vaccination programme". We've got around 7000 doses sitting in fridges, and the best we can hope for is that they'll fanny about, doing another 1041 during the first half of next week and then go into hibernation again. I simply don't believe that if the political will, and drive, was there, our medical staff couldn't figure out a way to quickly upscale and deliver another 2000 to 3000 in the next couple of weeks. Maybe sitting on stock, and having a very pedestrian paced plan was "acceptable" 10 days ago, but the Island's situation has changed, since then. We need Moulton and now Glover on this Monday 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Johnson Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nellie said: I can't believe that none of the journalists are asking "What efforts are being made to accelerate the vaccination programme". We've got around 7000 doses sitting in fridges, and the best we can hope for is that they'll fanny about, doing another 1041 during the first half of next week and then go into hibernation again. I simply don't believe that if the political will, and drive, was there, our medical staff couldn't figure out a way to quickly upscale and deliver another 2000 to 3000 in the next couple of weeks. Maybe sitting on stock, and having a very pedestrian paced plan was "acceptable" 10 days ago, but the Island's situation has changed, since then. They should concentrate on it. We have 6 ICU beds, 6, that is all. If it turns into a shit storm here in the community, they will need the shipping containers they have advertised to be supplied, not for sharps but for the bodies. ETA. Given the limited amount of ICU beds I would be asking NHS to give us more, sooner. Edited January 9, 2021 by Boris Johnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Probably very cynical, but if you look at it this way:- We can very easily close the borders, or at least limit entries; we are a small, easily trackable community: we are also, in the main, a compliant lot; we have a lot of genuinely caring and supportive professionals; we have a highly qualified person willing and able to give us on-island testing and genomic data so we can build our local understanding and response. With those attributes, how could we possibly fail? That is how we achieved elimination. But where it unravelled, for me, was the nonsense with the Doctor and the Letter. That was a major betrayal of the trust I placed in the handling of this and I no longer have the confidence in the various pronouncements and announcements. After the press conference today, my faith in the last remaining professional in whom I could place trust has been severely compromised. I will do what I am told to do, and will observe every direction, but do I do it with a collegiate feeling of being on the same side? 8 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chief Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Boris Johnson said: They should concentrate on it. We have 6 ICU beds, 6, that is all. If it turns into a shit storm here in the community, they will need the shipping containers they have advertised to be supplied, not for sharps but for the bodies. as usual MF is factually incorrect, nobles may have 6 beds but there's contingency for at least 14 more if required, it was well publicised during first lockdown that the theatres can be adjusted to ITU if needed. I think Wrighty on this thread said as much. But hey let's go for the sensational instead of the actual truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bankfern Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Totally agree with happy diner. we are now fighting a war against this virus. Can you imagine soldiers saying “ sorry general we can’t fight today, the paper work has not arrived and by the way we only fight on three days a week “ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Johnson Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 If we have 20 ICU beds thats great but have we? I mentioned something to Wrighty about increasing from 6 our capacity and he said is was not that simple, need very specialised staff to run them so unless they have taken on about 100 extra specialist staff to man these 14 beds I think we are stuck with 6. or 8 at a push. I really would love to be wrong on this by the way, I would sleep better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 22 minutes ago, Happier diner said: We have stock. It's in the freezer and the fridge. He even told us this. We had it before Christmas. Are you David in disguise? So it’s being distributed in a safe and controlled manner, what is the issue? It doesn’t matter if it’s done over 1 day or 5 days only the same amount of people will receive the vaccine. Perhaps you be asking why people aren’t turning up for their vaccinations despite being booked in and other people are queuing up to get it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetchtyke Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Nellie said: Nothing to do with PHE. Its NHS Supply Chain who supply us. They must be well chufffed we are sitting on 85% of what they've assigned, so far. It is Public Health England who are responsible for distributing the vaccine and arranging for it to be couriered here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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