pongo Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, horatiotheturd said: And again with the names, but not actually backing up what you are saying. What is the risk with proper isolation and testing? Educate an idiot! Why can't you people just focus on dealing with the virus instead of complicating that mission with all sorts of ifs and buts which relate to non essential, selfish and unnecessary travel? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of the blue Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Just now, Apple said: I don't think anyone can guarantee how long protection can last. Other strains may develop but hopefully the vaccines will cover all of them. They can be modified, just like to flu virus is depending on what is going around that year. Once the vacine has been rolled out It will come to a point that it will need to be treated like any other infectious potentially fatal disease, of which there are many. Vaccines will be given, the super vulnerable will be careful but life will go on. Even the arch doom monger Hancock has indicated that this will be the last UK lockdown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Boris Johnson said: They should concentrate on it. We have 6 ICU beds, 6, that is all. There are other areas like theatres and recovery that can be used to treat patients. Not sure how many though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatiotheturd Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, pongo said: Why can't you people just focus on dealing with the virus instead of complicating that mission with all sorts of ifs and buts which relate to non essential, selfish and unnecessary travel? Firstly, your definition of essential and mine are different. You really think its reasonable that if someone's husband dies and all their family live in the UK noone can come and offer them any physical support? Really? Secondly, if its selfish then explain how when there is zero risk involved? Or, you could just keep avoiding the point and continue to be brainwashed into thinking we must close the borders at all costs like all the other idiots who can't think for themselves. Edited January 9, 2021 by horatiotheturd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of the blue Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Just now, Apple said: There are other areas like theatres and recovery that can be used to treat patients. Not sure how many though. Agreed, if it really hit the fan, nurses and doctors would be drafted in from other departments. Of course they wouldn't necessarily be ICU specialists but care would be given however imperfectly. I am sure it will not come to that though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Just now, horatiotheturd said: Firstly, your definition of essential and mine are different. You really thinknits reasonable that if someone's husband does and all their family live in the UK noone can come.and offer them any physical support? Really? Secondly, if its selfish then explain how when there is zero risk involved? Or, you could just keep avoiding the point and continue to be brainwashed into thinking we must close the borders at all costs like all the other idiots who can't think for themselves. There should be no effort put into assessing the risks attached to unnecessary, selfish and non-essential travel. There is too much more important stuff to address. Unnecessary leisure travel doesn't need to happen at all. Within a year we will all be vaccinated and will be able to get back to normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 33 minutes ago, Banker said: Today’s figures I think that the clock should be re set to December '20 to give us a better understanding of the current situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, Out of the blue said: Even the arch doom monger Hancock has indicated that this will be the last UK lockdown. The success of the actions taken against the virus and its responses to them will dictate that surely? Bojo and Co said there wouldn't be another lockdown after the first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatiotheturd Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, pongo said: There should be no effort put into assessing the risks attached to unnecessary, selfish and non-essential travel. There is too much more important stuff to address. Unnecessary leisure travel doesn't need to happen at all. Within a year we will all be vaccinated and will be able to get back to normal. Whats unnecessary travel? All travel carries risks. At the moment its probably more risky to go to the coop and then travel home.and travel back.out again the next day that it is to mix with someone who has just done 14 days and 3 tests from UK in your own home. My opinion is that a trip to the coop when you have anybfood or drink in the house is unnecessary. Fancy me imposing my definition of unreasonable and selfish on you because I bet you have done things this week that I would deem unnecessary or selfish. I can see that some people selfishly NEED that pint of milk, doesn't mean I agree with it, doesn't mean I would want to see that option taken away from them. Wanting to see a loved one seems a lot more reasonable and necessary than needing beer or fags or milk or a particular brand of something that half the population are unnecessarily traveling around for. Edited January 9, 2021 by horatiotheturd 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of the blue Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: The success of the actions taken against the virus and its responses to them will dictate that surely? Bojo and Co said there wouldn't be another lockdown after the first. I think that they are putting all their eggs in the vaccine basket. If that fails all bets are off. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 minute ago, horatiotheturd said: Whats unnecessary travel? All travel carries risks. Your wish for unnecessary travel carries risks to other people and would therefore be potentially selfish. Assessing the individual personal circumstances of people one at a time would be a drag on valuable resources. Can't you just patiently wait? Someone previously made an analogy with WW2. In terms of the virus it's maybe early 1942. The good guys definitely haven't lost but they certainly haven't won either. Seeing your granny isn't that important. Skype her. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piebaps Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, thommo2010 said: Saturday night. People stuck at home with booze and social media. I expect some mad posts tonight and people waking up with the fear tomorrow. Who needs to go out lol Bob on there thommo. Its turned into Karen from FB all of a sudden. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 25 minutes ago, Kopek said: Hey you Kid, I'm over 70 and would use any excuse to drive my 2door sports car to anywhere as an opportunity to do so. I think that you are thinking of the over 80s? Sorry Kopek, I do realise that was a sweeping generalisation but in my experience most over 70s stop driving through one reason or another, I do hope one day to be the old fogey in a nice sports car myself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatiotheturd Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 minute ago, pongo said: Your wish for unnecessary travel carries risks to other people and would therefore be potentially selfish. Assessing the individual personal circumstances of people one at a time would be a drag on valuable resources. Can't you just patiently wait? Someone previously made an analogy with WW2. In terms of the virus it's maybe early 1942. The good guys definitely haven't lost but they certainly haven't won either. Seeing your granny isn't that important. Skype her. Did you even read my post? You think there is more risk to other people from a family.member coming over, isolating and being tested, than people going to shops and then continuing to mix in the community, potentially at work etc. According to you the more people who travel the more the risk. 100 people coming in this week and following the rules is less risk than 80,000 being allowed to go shopping is it not? So by your own logic we should all be locked in our houses eating gruel and drinking water. Noone needs exercise, noone needs social interaction. Do they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, horatiotheturd said: Did you even read my post? You think there is more risk to other people from a family.member coming over, isolating and being tested, than people going to shops and then continuing to mix in the community, potentially at work etc. According to you the more people who travel the more the risk. 100 people coming in this week and following the rules is less risk than 80,000 being allowed to go shopping is it not? So by your own logic we should all be locked in our houses eating gruel and drinking water. Noone needs exercise, noone needs social interaction. Do they? That's all bollocks. I don't believe that the risk of unnecessary travel should even be considered. Eliminate Covid and keep it out. That's the govt policy and I support it. Been out for a lovely walk today. Chatted at a safe distance with people I have known much of my life. Edited January 9, 2021 by pongo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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