horatiotheturd Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, pongo said: Can you even begin to imagine the expensive and resource hungry degree of work which would be necessary to make an one-at-a-time assessment of every separate case? How could the system possibly decide between a lower risk scenario and a higher risk scenario? Without an expensive and time consuming analysis of every case. And how long would such a careful process invariably take? And even accepting that many would lie. You don't. You just let people travel if they are prepared to do the right things. Only cost is extra isolation visits and just charge people £300 each to cover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatiotheturd Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, Annoymouse said: Well that’s an exceptional case and you have my sympathy, unfortunately the travel restrictions have to be in place to stop the 90% of idiots and not the 10% that would actually take the correct precautions and use their common sense. Ankle bracelets. Fixed. Easy. Next imaginary obstacle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Just now, horatiotheturd said: Ankle bracelets. Fixed. Easy. Next imaginary obstacle? Then please raise it and suggest it, unfortunately the number of people it (truly) affects is in such small numbers I think you’ll have to shout for your voice to be heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatiotheturd Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Annoymouse said: Then please raise it and suggest it, unfortunately the number of people it (truly) affects is in such small numbers I think you’ll have to shout for your voice to be heard. Tried. Refused on a number of occasions same as lots if others. Shambles. Offered to have people do what is basically the testing regime they insist on now as far back as August and they said no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) 36 minutes ago, dilligaf said: I’ve been stocking up on Gruel for weeks. Going to start selling on FB soon Hoarder! I wondered why there was none left. Is your first name Rog? Edited January 9, 2021 by Non-Believer extra bit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesypeas Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 33 minutes ago, horatiotheturd said: Ankle bracelets. Fixed. Easy. Next imaginary obstacle? In Hong Kong they make you download a GPS app. If it shows you outside, you're arrested. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, cheesypeas said: In Hong Kong they make you download a GPS app. If it shows you outside, you're arrested. No issue with that tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatiotheturd Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, cheesypeas said: In Hong Kong they make you download a GPS app. If it shows you outside, you're arrested. Wouldn't people just leave their phone at home, or take someone else's? Ankle tags asbo style for the win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesypeas Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 minute ago, horatiotheturd said: Wouldn't people just leave their phone at home, or take someone else's? Ankle tags asbo style for the win I guess if you want to run the risk of upsetting the Chinese police, then yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Rushen Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Having signed up for 2021 I have had my 7 day free trial and decided to cancel my subscription! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Hans Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Why can't the IOM Government just buy their own vaccine instead of it being handed out to us when the UK feel we deserve it? The excuse we're getting is that we get what we're given, although even what we're given isn't really used that quickly. Don't get me wrong 3 days work and 4 days off is great but not if you're delivering a life saving vaccine. We're self-governing(ish) so I don't see why we can't buy 150k doses at £3 each. I would have thought a population our size could be vaccinated, with a bit of effort, in a couple of months for those that want it. Genuine comment, I don't know if there is a reason we can't source our own vaccine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 I guess it's down to the 'clout' that the UK have on our behalf to secure these doses? I'm not sure that we would have the same preference with the pharmaceuticals ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, Kopek said: I guess it's down to the 'clout' that the UK have on our behalf to secure these doses? I'm not sure that we would have the same preference with the pharmaceuticals ?? Don't one of the big pharmaceuticals channel their proceeds through here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 15 minutes ago, Super Hans said: Why can't the IOM Government just buy their own vaccine instead of it being handed out to us when the UK feel we deserve it? The excuse we're getting is that we get what we're given, although even what we're given isn't really used that quickly. Don't get me wrong 3 days work and 4 days off is great but not if you're delivering a life saving vaccine. We're self-governing(ish) so I don't see why we can't buy 150k doses at £3 each. I would have thought a population our size could be vaccinated, with a bit of effort, in a couple of months for those that want it. Genuine comment, I don't know if there is a reason we can't source our own vaccine. I’d have thought you’d know a geezer who could supply us with any drugs we’d like! Seriously though, it’s all supply and demand. The manufacturers, so far at least, are being pretty responsible and selling at a reasonable price. Supply is limited by manufacturing capacity. If market forces were allowed you’d have the richest countries winning the bidding war and the poorer ones getting nothing. They’re allocating fairly, and IOM have agreed, reasonably I think, to tag on to the UK - we’re part of their procurement networks for other things - rather than going it alone trying to source our own. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Just imagine if there was a way to have the vaccination privately, I wonder what they would charge then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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