Kopek Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) ....but if it is only through the PO hierarchy that will not be a balanced view? ( I,m presuming that the scrutiny committee got the idea from the PO.......?. For online purchases, I usually opt for PO delivery the cheapest because, no matter what option you choose, you've not any idea how long it is going to take !!! Edited July 18, 2020 by Kopek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) I think everyone in here is forgetting that the post office has to cover the high costs of the sub post offices from any profits it makes from commercial side eg parcels. in the UK the UK government own the sub post offices because no one would buy them and the subsidies cost 100s millions pa! Royal Mail the privatized company just run commercial side eg parcels , letters etc so if the public and Tynwald members want sub post offices then they have to paid for by either profits or subsidies from treasury ie your taxes. so it’s not as simple as some posters think Edited July 18, 2020 by Banker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trumps Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Could they not be combined with newsagents & stationers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Banker said: I think everyone in here is forgetting that the post office has to cover the high costs of the sub post offices Why do we need sub post offices? What are they for? I don't think I've visited one for years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Donald Trumps said: Could they not be combined with newsagents & stationers? Most are. Think Spar shops Edited July 18, 2020 by dilligaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Seem to want the PO counter to be separate from the Shop! A steady flow to the PO counter would need separate staff not a sharing of shop staff duties. Where the problem lies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Just now, pongo said: Why do we need sub post offices? What are they for? I don't think I've visited one for years. Post & collect parcels & collect pensions & benefits, car tax etc. a lot of older people Like my mum like to call in for pensions and have a chat. Look at the outcry from Hooper, Baker & Moorhouse when one closes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 ... but Banker, it was the Banks that started this digitalisation, force people on line, make swipe an easy payment and close branches!!! People don't understand that a card swipe for a newspaper ( £1 ) costs the business some 20p.which will eventually be added to the purchase price! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) Pongo, how do you mail a parcel??? Oh no! You don't send your Mother a Moonpig card do you??? How cheap and impersonal. Edited July 18, 2020 by Kopek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Newbie Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, pongo said: Why do we need sub post offices? What are they for? I don't think I've visited one for years. They’re mini branches of Markwell House. Pop in for a natter and pick up your bennies at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, Kopek said: ....but if it is only through the PO hierarchy that will not be a balanced view? ( I,m presuming that the scrutiny committee got the idea from the PO.......?. For online purchases, I usually opt for PO delivery the cheapest because, no matter what option you choose, you've not any idea how long it is going to take !!! I know you won’t see this reply () but the PO is not always the cheapest option for all on line stuff or anything else tbh.l have just sent a heavy box to Cambridge from here. A freight forwarder would have been less that halve the cost, but I was told they did not cover with insurance, the contents. Went to the PO assuming they insured same but having gone to the trouble of taking it to the sorting office, was told the price and I asked to up the cover. Only to be told they also did not cover the type of content. I CBA to go away , so paid the PO rate. In their favour, and to absolutely amaze me , the box posted mid afternoon reached it’s destination At 08-00 next day. That is impressive to say the least, so thanks for the speed, even if you were more expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Banker said: I think everyone in here is forgetting that the post office has to cover the high costs of the sub post offices from any profits it makes from commercial side eg parcels. in the UK the UK government own the sub post offices because no one would buy them and the subsidies cost 100s millions pa! Royal Mail the privatized company just run commercial side eg parcels , letters etc so if the public and Tynwald members want sub post offices then they have to paid for by either profits or subsidies from treasury ie your taxes. so it’s not as simple as some posters think This is not really the whole story. The salaries received by the small sub post offices is a pittance, and most of them are in danger of subsidising the post office from their ancillary business activity rather than the other way around. It is the case that the small post office salary combined with the other bits of trade they do just about makes a viable business. Just about. Nobody is getting rich running these shops, and I know at least one who is thinking of dumping it. This is why the post office was so keen to convert their last main offices to sub offices and farm them out to other operators. Costs them far less than operating directly with employed staff. Edited July 18, 2020 by woolley 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) Uh Oh!! Edited July 18, 2020 by Kopek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Uh Oh!!! 10 minutes ago, dilligaf said: less that halve the cost, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, dilligaf said: I know you won’t see this reply () but the PO is not always the cheapest option for all on line stuff or anything else tbh.l have just sent a heavy box to Cambridge from here. A freight forwarder would have been less that halve the cost, but I was told they did not cover with insurance, the contents. Went to the PO assuming they insured same but having gone to the trouble of taking it to the sorting office, was told the price and I asked to up the cover. Only to be told they also did not cover the type of content. I CBA to go away , so paid the PO rate. In their favour, and to absolutely amaze me , the box posted mid afternoon reached it’s destination At 08-00 next day. That is impressive to say the least, so thanks for the speed, even if you were more expensive. That service is down to the post office on the other side though really, isn't it? IOMPO only had to drive it to the Airport along with all the other UK post in time to catch the evening plane! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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