Isle of Wight TT

[Non-Believer]

2 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said:

They will need at least a 50 strong manx delegation to advise on how to run this thing

And we can advise on and monitor their democratic processes as well at the same time, that should just justify a few more on the trip who've been at a bit of a loose end over lockdowns recently...

[Lagman]

On 7/29/2020 at 11:07 AM, joebean said:

The worry for the IOM TT might be that the IOW, starting with a blank sheet, hits on a formula that is very successful. This might be a shorter festival with a greater variety of machinery over a course where spectators see more racing; organized without the need for public sector employees; the involvement of expert race organisers without the interference of public sector advisors with no expertise in course safety; marketed to a more family orientated audience by a specialist event marketing company; making good use of a trademark registration that is not subjected to political weakening; generating income from commercial sources to fund the event and without dependence to public funding and the consequent interference and influence of novice politicians. In fact, everything the Isle of Man rejects as a way forward...

I'm doubting it after reading all the news items about it, they seem to be looking at the positives only and completely ignoring the negatives - i.e. - If the IOM TT makes so many million, then ours could easily make about half of that or whatever. Problem is they don't seem to be looking at how much these things cost in terms of puttiing it on, policing, loss of buisiness etc. If people want the things you listed, they have plenty of road races in Northern Ireland (most seem to be either not doing that well or are under pressure due to deaths etc. - The deaths is also something they seem to be ignoring). If they were considering everything the IOM rejects, they wouldn't be having it in the first place.

Edited August 5, 2020 by Lagman

[Lagman]

On 7/29/2020 at 9:36 AM, Non-Believer said:

The IOM's big plus in that respect is that it's already got its TT history and tradition to give it a leg up. It's established.

And it's on the tv, that will be a major point of how well the IOW's does, if it gets on tv.

Maybe this is something to do with that world series TT thing they were talking about a few years ago with different  places having races.

Edited August 5, 2020 by Lagman

[Lagman]

On 7/29/2020 at 8:09 AM, The Duck of Atholl said:

I wish them well with this venture (they may wish they hadn't started it in a few years time) and hope IOMG don't get all sulky and arsey about it. 

They kind  of have the right to get arsey about it if their trademarks are being used, remembering these races were the red headed stepchild of the motorsport world for decades with the constant death races meme from the UK press, it's only due to having them since forever and nobody else wanting them at the time that we ended up owning the trademarks.

On the plus side though, it might help to unbottleneck our event and hopefully send a few of the boy racers that we aquired after the TV show to the other Island.

Maybe we should have another go at having an -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_Wight_Festival

 - after covid.

[Lagman]

On 7/30/2020 at 2:55 PM, GD4ELI said:

Insular.

And the IOW isn't?

I have been reading the comments on their news sites and forums during corona

[the stinking enigma]

I watched a 1 hour 10 min youtube video of a guy from the council clearing leaves out of a pond spill way with a rake during lockdown. Watched the whole thing. Never once did it occur to me to go read isle of wight forums. Respect sir

 

[Lagman]

8 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said:

I watched a 1 hour 10 min youtube video of a guy from the council clearing leaves out of a pond spill way with a rake during lockdown. Watched the whole thing. Never once did it occur to me to go read isle of wight forums. Respect sir

 

I had THAT much time to spare, also Guernsey, Jersey, Cornwall etc.

It does on reflection put the "Manx Crab" thing into perspective, they all do it.

Edited August 5, 2020 by Lagman

[the stinking enigma]

The manx crab thing trope was invented by the english oppressors to keep the natives in check, I've done no research but am 100% certain of my facts.

[Lagman]

12 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said:

The manx crab thing trope was invented by the english oppressors to keep the natives in check, I've done no research but am 100% certain of my facts.

And they do it too.

[winnie]

The IOW isn't a patch on the IOM. Think the only things i'd swap are the weather and ease to get on and off the island.

[wanderer]

Which are 2 of the things that stop it being flooded by tourists like the IOW was last week when I went over to visit a  mate , thus keeping it a lot nicer.

 

[Non-Believer]

16 minutes ago, wanderer said:

Which are 2 of the things that stop it being flooded by tourists like the IOW was last week when I went over to visit a  mate , thus keeping it a lot nicer.

 

Which is fine, except the IOM needs to fuel such as a voracious Govt appetite for money and a £4Bn PS pension liability. We need more Tourism numbers so it can play whatever part it can in funding that, given that Govt has yet to show any self control or discipline.

There's a balancing act that has to be done. Unfortunately one end of the IoM's see-saw is firmly on the ground.

[Roger Mexico]

1 hour ago, wanderer said:

Which are 2 of the things that stop it being flooded by tourists like the IOW was last week when I went over to visit a  mate , thus keeping it a lot nicer.

That's one thing that might work against having racing on the Isle of Wight.  I suspect most spectators will want to do it as a day-trip  (which their scheduling may encourage) and it will cause a lot of congestion and so on without actually bringing much income to the place.

[wanderer]

4 hours ago, Non-Believer said:

Which is fine, except the IOM needs to fuel such as a voracious Govt appetite for money and a £4Bn PS pension liability. We need more Tourism numbers so it can play whatever part it can in funding that, given that Govt has yet to show any self control or discipline.

There's a balancing act that has to be done. Unfortunately one end of the IoM's see-saw is firmly on the ground.

I did wonder how locals felt about tourism , The IOW gets a lot , probably pees off some who live there but not the business owners , as you say a balancing act. My mother lives in Peel and that can get pretty busy even without tourists currently.

Edited August 6, 2020 by wanderer

[Non-Believer]

42 minutes ago, wanderer said:

I did wonder how locals felt about tourism , The IOW gets a lot , probably pees off some who live there but not the business owners , as you say a balancing act. My mother lives in Peel and that can get pretty busy even without tourists currently.

Peel has been THE place for a night out for quite some time. Pubs and eateries all seem to do well and most weekend nights it's hopping with locals from other towns making their way there. Late public transport out of Peel is always packed with people going home. Whatever is the attraction it's certainly doing well, some other towns might like to take note.