Banker Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 33 minutes ago, Boo Gay'n said: The plan appears to be to have two chief executives - one for the DHSC and another for the 'arm's length' provider organisation that is Manx Care. Wasteful, inefficient, daft, won't turn out well etc. Yes Ashie already stated in Tynwald that extra salary costs for twin management ie 3 ceos etc is £3.6m pa + pensions etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackajah Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 20 hours ago, Out of the blue said: Whilst accepting that there are always two sides to any story, however, assuming that what you wrote is factual (no reason to doubt otherwise), it is unacceptable that politicians and civil servants should choose to play politics at this time. It smacks of leaders and management with low self esteem and moral courage. They need to take a really good look at themselves... Yes, and we need to take a really good look at them all come election time. #Votethemout. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Apple said: http://www.iomtoday.co.im/article.cfm?id=58494&headline=Meet the new Manx Care chief executive§ionIs=&searchyear=2020 That’s Ms. Cope - the first ever CEO of Manx Care. My question related not to Manx Care but to DHSC; Magson was appointed as CEO until 31 March this year. Has a substantive appointment been made to replace Magson at DHSC from April? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 57 minutes ago, Uhtred said: That’s Ms. Cope - the first ever CEO of Manx Care. My question related not to Manx Care but to DHSC; Magson was appointed as CEO until 31 March this year. Has a substantive appointment been made to replace Magson at DHSC from April? Far too many pencil necks and far too few at the sharp end ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Uhtred said: That’s Ms. Cope - the first ever CEO of Manx Care. My question related not to Manx Care but to DHSC; Magson was appointed as CEO until 31 March this year. Has a substantive appointment been made to replace Magson at DHSC from April? I don’t think that’s right. Mrs Magson was appointed as interim CEO for 2 years, and started December 2019 I think. 2020 seemed like a long year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Uhtred said: That’s Ms. Cope - the first ever CEO of Manx Care. My question related not to Manx Care but to DHSC; Magson was appointed as CEO until 31 March this year. Has a substantive appointment been made to replace Magson at DHSC from April? Tess Cope describes herself as Chief Executive Designate (what ever that means) but my understanding is that eventually one will replace the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 33 minutes ago, wrighty said: I don’t think that’s right. Mrs Magson was appointed as interim CEO for 2 years, and started December 2019 I think. 2020 seemed like a long year. Thanks for that clarification - I mistakenly believed that the end of Mrs Magson’s appointment coincided with the creation of a Manx Care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 29 minutes ago, Apple said: Tess Cope describes herself as Chief Executive Designate (what ever that means) but my understanding is that eventually one will replace the other. Yes - Ms. Cope is indeed Chief Executive designate...of Manx Care. Someone, currently it’s Mrs. Magson, will also head up DHSC. Whether that person is termed CEO or not (and Mrs. Magson is) they are the head honcho of the DHSC...an entirely separate entity to Manx Care. Further, as Ms. Cope is CEO of an organisation responsible for the delivery of all health and social care, not simply acute care in a hospital setting, there will presumably be a CEO (or ‘Manager’ if you prefer) specifically of Noble’s hospital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Howie wouldn’t entertain any discussion today on individuals who maybe able to offer services and it’s entirely upto DHSC who they employ, end of conversation!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Git Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 English solutions for Manx problems? 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, Banker said: Howie wouldn’t entertain any discussion today on individuals who maybe able to offer services and it’s entirely upto DHSC who they employ, end of conversation!! Just pathetic isn't it !! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Old Git said: English solutions for Manx problems? But of course. Even of the Non-executive Directors three of the five don't live on the Island. We can't have people's judgement being affected by the fact that they might have to live with the consequences. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 18 minutes ago, asitis said: Just pathetic isn't it !! It wasn’t really the time or place to comment though was it? If Paul had asked Mr Ashford that would be a different story but he completely and utterly wasted his opportunity to ask that question and once again made himself look like a prick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Annoymouse said: It wasn’t really the time or place to comment though was it? If Paul had asked Mr Ashford that would be a different story but he completely and utterly wasted his opportunity to ask that question and once again made himself look like a prick. A shame really. Howard just put it back onto the civil servants. The 'shit sandwich' was easily and swiftly passed. Don't give up Paul. 'They' maybe messing with your head by controlling your mute button etc but don't give up. Edited January 8, 2021 by Barlow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 4 hours ago, Annoymouse said: It wasn’t really the time or place to comment though was it? If Paul had asked Mr Ashford that would be a different story but he completely and utterly wasted his opportunity to ask that question and once again made himself look like a prick. I meant the whole situation, here we are in the midst of a pandemic and people are playing at ego massage and politics ! The time for this shit is after the problem is under control, it illustrates perfectly the problems with our leadership structures. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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