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36 minutes ago, Dr. Grumpy said:

I hope she stays on and becomes an MHK at least, if not Minister

Great idea. I would vote for her. It would be great to have someone who knows how the DHSC should be run.

What's not to lose ?

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58 minutes ago, Dr. Grumpy said:

I hope she stays on and becomes an MHK at least, if not Minister

Interesting, but I'm not sure you realize how politics work, especially on the Isle of Man.

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2 minutes ago, Barlow said:

Interesting, but I'm not sure you realize how politics work, especially on the Isle of Man.

You're probably right. But here's a woman who's knowledgeable, articulate, intelligent, courageous and can hold powerful politicians to account. What's not to like?

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12 minutes ago, TerryFuchwit said:

On what basis do you think she would be great at running a department and health care delivery strategy with a budget of 220m or so a year?

What experience did Ashford have before he was elevated and honoured? Whoever runs that department hardly runs it alone, do they? 

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13 minutes ago, TerryFuchwit said:

On what basis do you think she would be great at running a department and health care delivery strategy with a budget of 220m or so a year?

Quilp just got in before me. 

 

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1 minute ago, quilp said:

What experience did Ashford have before he was elevated and honoured? Whoever runs that department hardly runs it alone, do they? 

Ashford could not run a bath never mind the Health service as I have said before and will say again he is a follower not a leader and never will, not while his arse looks down! IMO

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33 minutes ago, Beelzebub3 said:

Ashford could not run a bath never mind the Health service as I have said before and will say again he is a follower not a leader and never will, not while his arse looks down! IMO

it may have looked up a few times as well ??

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3 hours ago, Apple said:

Great idea. I would vote for her. It would be great to have someone who knows how the DHSC should be run.

What's not to lose ?

I know that others followed up on this, but you are wrong.  Rachel Glover is no doubt an expert in a super-specialised field, and I respect her for that.  Does she know anything about adult social care, child protection, hospital consultant mafias etc.?  To lose ... would be further chaos in a completely dysfunctional and unhappy department.

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DA didn't have much of an idea but he had CEO's, Chief Nurses, and believe me countless others to bring him up to speed , and fast. Plus he also had HQ who had been there and done that.

Many of the (improved) systems and processes we have today, Covid notwithstanding, can be laid at DA's door. He also put himself into the role and burned the midnight oil. I know that for a fact. He didn't have any clinical background which is were someone with Dr Glovers insights would be useful.

I do not disagree with the description of the current set up and how it has been managed below DA for the last few years. I hope this year will change all that.

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1 hour ago, Boo Gay'n said:

Rachel Glover is no doubt an expert in a super-specialised field, and I respect her for that.  Does she know anything about adult social care, child protection, hospital consultant mafias etc.?  To lose ... would be further chaos in a completely dysfunctional and unhappy department.

Well by now I think we can take it that she knows about hospital mafias. 

She has 15 years experience of working in the English NHS and is also a successful  entrepreneur with a business that is thriving and expanding.  Which explains why she won't be standing, but you can't say she isn't beter qualified than most. 

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1 hour ago, Boo Gay'n said:

I know that others followed up on this, but you are wrong.  Rachel Glover is no doubt an expert in a super-specialised field, and I respect her for that.  Does she know anything about adult social care, child protection, hospital consultant mafias etc.?  To lose ... would be further chaos in a completely dysfunctional and unhappy department.

Well, to answer the question on this thread, I have no intention of running in the next few years. 

However, I do know how large complex organisations work and how to manage them. My experience prior to moving back to the IoM and setting up my own company demonstrates that (DEFRA, Capita). I certainly know how to run a large department and manage C-Suite staff more than an ex-barman without the critical thinking skills and analytical mindset a postgraduate education provides. 

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31 minutes ago, rachomics said:

 I certainly know how to run a large department and manage C-Suite staff more than an ex-barman without the critical thinking skills and analytical mindset a postgraduate education provides. 

Dr Glover I’m afraid that sentence says a lot about you.

And not in a good way.

From a one time barman 

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I'm talking about a specific ex-barman who currently heads the DHSC who seems to believe that being a minister makes him a professor. I don't speak about all ex-barstaff. I used to serve in (and chuck people out of) the Clarendon, the Woody, and the Students' Union in Aberdeen in days gone by.

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