Dr. Grumpy Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Happier diner said: Based on your post, surely she is more needed in the UK. I hope she stays on and becomes an MHK at least, if not Minister 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 36 minutes ago, Dr. Grumpy said: I hope she stays on and becomes an MHK at least, if not Minister Great idea. I would vote for her. It would be great to have someone who knows how the DHSC should be run. What's not to lose ? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 58 minutes ago, Dr. Grumpy said: I hope she stays on and becomes an MHK at least, if not Minister Interesting, but I'm not sure you realize how politics work, especially on the Isle of Man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryFuchwit Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 23 minutes ago, Apple said: Great idea. I would vote for her. It would be great to have someone who knows how the DHSC should be run. What's not to lose ? On what basis do you think she would be great at running a department and health care delivery strategy with a budget of 220m or so a year? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Grumpy Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Barlow said: Interesting, but I'm not sure you realize how politics work, especially on the Isle of Man. You're probably right. But here's a woman who's knowledgeable, articulate, intelligent, courageous and can hold powerful politicians to account. What's not to like? 2 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 12 minutes ago, TerryFuchwit said: On what basis do you think she would be great at running a department and health care delivery strategy with a budget of 220m or so a year? What experience did Ashford have before he was elevated and honoured? Whoever runs that department hardly runs it alone, do they? 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 13 minutes ago, TerryFuchwit said: On what basis do you think she would be great at running a department and health care delivery strategy with a budget of 220m or so a year? Quilp just got in before me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebub3 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 minute ago, quilp said: What experience did Ashford have before he was elevated and honoured? Whoever runs that department hardly runs it alone, do they? Ashford could not run a bath never mind the Health service as I have said before and will say again he is a follower not a leader and never will, not while his arse looks down! IMO 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 33 minutes ago, Beelzebub3 said: Ashford could not run a bath never mind the Health service as I have said before and will say again he is a follower not a leader and never will, not while his arse looks down! IMO it may have looked up a few times as well ?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Gay'n Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Apple said: Great idea. I would vote for her. It would be great to have someone who knows how the DHSC should be run. What's not to lose ? I know that others followed up on this, but you are wrong. Rachel Glover is no doubt an expert in a super-specialised field, and I respect her for that. Does she know anything about adult social care, child protection, hospital consultant mafias etc.? To lose ... would be further chaos in a completely dysfunctional and unhappy department. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 DA didn't have much of an idea but he had CEO's, Chief Nurses, and believe me countless others to bring him up to speed , and fast. Plus he also had HQ who had been there and done that. Many of the (improved) systems and processes we have today, Covid notwithstanding, can be laid at DA's door. He also put himself into the role and burned the midnight oil. I know that for a fact. He didn't have any clinical background which is were someone with Dr Glovers insights would be useful. I do not disagree with the description of the current set up and how it has been managed below DA for the last few years. I hope this year will change all that. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Boo Gay'n said: Rachel Glover is no doubt an expert in a super-specialised field, and I respect her for that. Does she know anything about adult social care, child protection, hospital consultant mafias etc.? To lose ... would be further chaos in a completely dysfunctional and unhappy department. Well by now I think we can take it that she knows about hospital mafias. She has 15 years experience of working in the English NHS and is also a successful entrepreneur with a business that is thriving and expanding. Which explains why she won't be standing, but you can't say she isn't beter qualified than most. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachomics Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Boo Gay'n said: I know that others followed up on this, but you are wrong. Rachel Glover is no doubt an expert in a super-specialised field, and I respect her for that. Does she know anything about adult social care, child protection, hospital consultant mafias etc.? To lose ... would be further chaos in a completely dysfunctional and unhappy department. Well, to answer the question on this thread, I have no intention of running in the next few years. However, I do know how large complex organisations work and how to manage them. My experience prior to moving back to the IoM and setting up my own company demonstrates that (DEFRA, Capita). I certainly know how to run a large department and manage C-Suite staff more than an ex-barman without the critical thinking skills and analytical mindset a postgraduate education provides. 16 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, rachomics said: I certainly know how to run a large department and manage C-Suite staff more than an ex-barman without the critical thinking skills and analytical mindset a postgraduate education provides. Dr Glover I’m afraid that sentence says a lot about you. And not in a good way. From a one time barman Edited February 1, 2021 by The Voice of Reason 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachomics Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) I'm talking about a specific ex-barman who currently heads the DHSC who seems to believe that being a minister makes him a professor. I don't speak about all ex-barstaff. I used to serve in (and chuck people out of) the Clarendon, the Woody, and the Students' Union in Aberdeen in days gone by. Edited February 1, 2021 by rachomics 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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