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14 hours ago, rachomics said:

Well, you could go back a whole 1-2 pages and read what I've said but it sounds like that's too much effort.

Your lever of patronising is probably why the other specialists and technicians are unable to work with you.   I will write to a department and offer to do their plumbing for free, advertise my speciality and Twitter my freebie to the great Manx public, its known as a loss leader and rake in the benefits of my free Worldwide PR.   

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17 minutes ago, buncha wankas said:

Your lever of patronising is probably why the other specialists and technicians are unable to work with you.   I will write to a department and offer to do their plumbing for free, advertise my speciality and Twitter my freebie to the great Manx public, its known as a loss leader and rake in the benefits of my free Worldwide PR.   

Plenty of plumbers on the Island, look at the telephone directory although not many genomic scientist's as I can see.

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28 minutes ago, buncha wankas said:

Your lever of patronising is probably why the other specialists and technicians are unable to work with you.   I will write to a department and offer to do their plumbing for free, advertise my speciality and Twitter my freebie to the great Manx public, its known as a loss leader and rake in the benefits of my free Worldwide PR.   

Careful buncha, disrespecting Mother Terachel is a flogging offence on this forum.

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59 minutes ago, buncha wankas said:

Your lever of patronising is probably why the other specialists and technicians are unable to work with you.   I will write to a department and offer to do their plumbing for free, advertise my speciality and Twitter my freebie to the great Manx public, its known as a loss leader and rake in the benefits of my free Worldwide PR.   

Not sure how many customers you'd have queuing out the door for it. I'm sure you could find out how well Taxagenomics are doing, but it doesn't look like they're hard up for business anyway.

It'd be akin to a busy specialist industrial engineer offering their on-island skills to fix critical infrastructure in a pinch. Not like your average Joe would have a critical combobulator kicking around in need of repair.

If anything, I'd put forth that the value-add for Dr G is the scientific and research value. Which is hardly of detriment to the Island. Her primary focus being to actually help the island with the situation in hand.

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‘Taxagenomics’ is an anagram of ‘Mexican’s goat’ ‘coaxing meats’ and ‘maniac got sex’. This could all be very important. But probably isn’t. 

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I have to admit I do not know Dr G and have never met or spoken with her.

The DHSC people I have experienced. I think those that have will have formed their own opinions. 

It'll all come out in the wash, as my Mum used to say, so no point getting angsty about it. Yet.

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A decade or so ago the world of Manx advocates started hacking around the word 'proportionate'. It is a wooly word that sounds grandiose, but is often in context fucking meaningless because it is subjective.

It seems like the Manx political world is picking up on the word. Doctor Allinson has used up his share already.

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6 hours ago, piebaps said:

Careful buncha, disrespecting Mother Terachel is a flogging offence on this forum.

In the UK Bo Jo offered to that nice Mr Dyson tax concessions for his ventilators, some contracts for PPE were given out to firms linked to Tory Party donors…all in the name of throwing the proverbial kitchen sink at the Covid crisis. The IOMG had decided to reject an offer from a scientist (with an impressive track record) to provide genomic sequencing free of charge.

During the unprecedented times any legitimate assistance should be welcome, in theory. The IOMG’s whole approach to dealing with Dr Glover was the sort of approach that one expects from people who are out of their depth. It is therefore not surprising that this sorry saga is now playing out in the court of Public Opinion.

We don’t know who will win in the ‘Dr Glover vs IOMG’ sorry saga, but we do know who the ultimate losers will be – GMP.

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2 hours ago, code99 said:

In the UK Bo Jo offered to that nice Mr Dyson tax concessions for his ventilators, some contracts for PPE were given out to firms linked to Tory Party donors…all in the name of throwing the proverbial kitchen sink at the Covid crisis. The IOMG had decided to reject an offer from a scientist (with an impressive track record) to provide genomic sequencing free of charge.

 

The Government considered the offer and decided it wasn’t right for the IOM. They have on many occasions said following expert opinions why ( for example the size of the Island renders such sequencing meaningless) and are pursuing alternative avenues.

Why can’t you Glover disciples just accept that ? Horses for courses and all that.

I could offer the Government a free Tarot card reading (I have an impressive track record on Tarot card reading) to assist with the COVID situation and rant and rail when my offer was declined.

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10 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

They have on many occasions said following expert opinions why ( for example the size of the Island renders such sequencing meaningless) and are pursuing alternative avenues.

 

This is where you (and the government) misunderstand the science. 

The high-resolution bioinformatic analysis with the genomic sequencing data that elucidates transmission chains I've been offering is PERFECT for a small island with small outbreaks (less than a few thousand cases in the total outbreak). The COG-UK research project doesn't use this approach because until very recently they've had thousands of cases per day to look at - high resolution just doesn't work at that scale.

However, New Zealand and Australia have been using the high-resolution transmission chain tracking since this time last year incredibly successfully, which is why when I was part of the response I was calling for these techniques and continue to do so. Liverpool aren't providing this analysis, only the scope of the research project they have ethical approval and research funding for in the UK (i.e. what variant is it)

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