Ham_N_Eggs Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, Gladys said: I have been saying this for so long, he always sounds plausible, well briefed and convincing, even when the words are clap trap. That is a dangerous skill. Not a surprise he is a Tory fanboy after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 36 minutes ago, Roxanne said: I can’t listen. I just can’t. When it happened, within twelve hours he’d ‘perfected’ his story to make it sound almost plausible even though everyone knew it was bollocks. Make no mistake, this is a very skilled man at his craft (which is rising to the top in any way possible), regardless of who gets battered along the way Yesterday, or the day before, we listened as he gave evidence to the PAC. Evidence that was untrue, on many levels, and one particular level potentially dangerous. for a Minister, who’s job is to oversee, not to play to the gallery and pretend he has enough knowledge and comprehension to espouse on virus testing at a molecular level and got it spectacularly, dangerously wrong. But he did sound as though he knew what he was talking about. So plausible, so reassuring, so calm, so knowledgable, so affable Beware the wolf in sheep’s clothing I believe it’s becoming increasingly clear that Ashford is dangerous. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 He wouldn't be dangerous if you decided to fight him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsmeee Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 I just can’t even begin to say how many kinds of wrong the whole letter debacle was. That was the point at which Ashford lost my last shred of respect. Utter liar. And worshipped by too many. No matter what good he may have accidentally blundered into doing previously, he pissed it all away with shredgate. GDPR? Great Dangly Pile of Rubbish. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Itsmeee said: I just can’t even begin to say how many kinds of wrong the whole letter debacle was. That was the point at which Ashford lost my last shred of respect. Utter liar. And worshipped by too many. No matter what good he may have accidentally blundered into doing previously, he pissed it all away with shredgate. GDPR? Great Dangly Pile of Rubbish. Me too. And yet there is not one glimmer of regret at what was a patent lack of judgement. That in itself is concerning. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Gladys said: Me too. And yet there is not one glimmer of regret at what was a patent lack of judgement. That in itself is concerning. Why be regretful when you’re never wrong? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, Uhtred said: Why be regretful when you’re never wrong? Good point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Gladys said: I have been saying this for so long, he always sounds plausible, well briefed and convincing, even when the words are clap trap. That is a dangerous skill. He's a dangerous man on a number of levels. But mostly a danger to himself as he believes that every word he utters is true, unequivocally so. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Manx Radio report: 'We were never going to get it 100 per cent right' - Health Minister Another phrase we will be hearing in respect of, well, anything really. At least he had the grace to end the clip with "lessons will be learned" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsmeee Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 15 minutes ago, Barlow said: At least he had the grace to end the clip with "lessons will be learned" Which roughly translates to “fuck you” 4 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptarmigan Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 On balance they did a good the government. Some of it was luck but the conditions they created meant that luck was on their side. There were things they could have done differently and I genuinely believe that once Howard has gone, because he is a pompous arse, lessons will be learnt from this. HQ is unwilling to say he was wrong about anything which is part of the problem. We’ve done better than many other jurisdictions. It’s a shame a sideshow about letters, a private company who mayor may not be mainly publicising themselves and the steam packet are overshadowing this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 51 minutes ago, Barlow said: At least he had the grace to end the clip with "lessons will be learned" The standard then.....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy123 Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Just saw on Gef - apparently Ashey confirmed Glover has been appointed to the new EAG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, Fluffy123 said: Just saw on Gef - apparently Ashey confirmed Glover has been appointed to the new EAG Interesting, I listened to some of his evidence and missed this. Possibly a resolution to the dispute? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
code99 Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 24 minutes ago, Fluffy123 said: Just saw on Gef - apparently Ashey confirmed Glover has been appointed to the new EAG Good news, better late than never. Let's hope that when the EAG does make recommendations the IOMG will actually accept them and not shred them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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