Ham_N_Eggs Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Just now, KERED said: Just listened to Ashford, in the Keys. What an arrogant, smarmy conceited little tw@t! His words, and the way in which he delivered them are in insult to Dr Glover, Julie Edge, the Keys, and the great Manx Public! I really hope that he will be voted out, in September. Yes but most people don't listen to the Keys so they'll vote him in regardless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 The speed of speech changes when DA is answering questions. During the exchange with Julie Edge et al it was. almost difficult to make out what he was saying at times. Need for speed cameras in HoK. ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KERED Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, Apple said: The speed of speech changes when DA is answering questions. During the exchange with Julie Edge et al it was. almost difficult to make out what he was saying at times. Need for speed cameras in HoK. ? Super Slow-Mo ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4652009 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 He's slippery as ........ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 12 minutes ago, chris4652009 said: He's slippery as ........ Michael Gove...? It has been said that getting a straight answer out of the Govester is "Like trying to grab an eel in a barrel full of oil..." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4652009 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) BINGO! "Mistakes were made and lessons will be learned" as you say, slippery as a bucket of eels Edited May 25, 2021 by chris4652009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Howard taking questions on the Steam Packet report - what's not to like ? Apologised many times, took several points on the chin. Politics at it's finest. Obfuscation, deviation, misdirection all there on display. But also calmness, patience, stamina and all with a degree of tolerance. Have to admire the man for that. Ashford - stumbled response to the point by post rebuttal issue re Dr Glover. Sounds rushed, pressured, close to exasperation at times, sounded vey uncomfortable. I still feel he needs a break to recharge his batteries. Howard is going - the mistakes were made, not just by him as he said, he did his best so I am happy to let him be. Iirc the only support question he got was from Allinson. Suprisingly though nothing from Ashford. Probably did not want to be associated with the report but thats politics I guess. No good deed ever goes unrepaid. I think people around DA might need to be aware of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
display name Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Apple said: The speed of speech changes when DA is answering questions. During the exchange with Julie Edge et al it was. almost difficult to make out what he was saying at times. Need for speed cameras in HoK. ? They could get St.Flint of Assisi to set them up. He's got nothing else to do Edited May 25, 2021 by display name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Apple said: Howard is going - the mistakes were made, not just by him as he said, he did his best so I am happy to let him be. Iirc the only support question he got was from Allinson. Suprisingly though nothing from Ashford. Probably did not want to be associated with the report but thats politics I guess. No good deed ever goes unrepaid. I think people around DA might need to be aware of that. As has been the case for well over a year, most of Allinson's helpful interventions (you can't really call them questions) are designed to show how much better he would be at the job than Quayle is. Which is true enough, though it's a fairly minimal qualification. The interesting thing is that he's the only one to regularly do it - you'd expect more support from Cannan for instance, but there's nothing really to suggest the latter is anything more than a less bumbling version of Quayle. But no matter how sincere or comprehensive the apologies are, they're not much use if there's no real evidence that things have changed. This whole episode was a classic example of the Cabinet Office demanding control over everything, not bothering to use it properly, and then trying to blame everyone else for the consequences of their inaction and incompetence. Nothing has changed. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Here’s Gef summary in Ashford not giving point by point rebuttal https://gef.im/2021/05/25/no-point-by-point-rebuttal/?fbclid=IwAR1seRks8f78P6K9bigqoFZ_6r4okuKAKxCJil4WJ-tPvHlhpN8LPfkCi4Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 5 hours ago, display name said: They got get St.Flint of Assisi to set them up. He's got nothing else to do What was it exactly that he arrested you for all those years ago? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Between this, the SP report and the Liverpool landing stage, is there not a mechanism for proper full accountability with penalties? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hmmmm Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Banker said: Here’s Gef summary in Ashford not giving point by point rebuttal https://gef.im/2021/05/25/no-point-by-point-rebuttal/?fbclid=IwAR1seRks8f78P6K9bigqoFZ_6r4okuKAKxCJil4WJ-tPvHlhpN8LPfkCi4Q Ashford is painting himself into a corner. He is floundering and will continue to do so, he is becoming a parody of his former self. Credibility totally shot, public senses switched off, classic example of a latter day Icarus. Edited May 25, 2021 by Hmmmm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Gladys said: Between this, the SP report and the Liverpool landing stage, is there not a mechanism for proper full accountability with penalties? There is, it's called a General Election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, Gladys said: Between this, the SP report and the Liverpool landing stage, is there not a mechanism for proper full accountability with penalties? Dont forget the latest vaccines fiasco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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