Ramseyboi Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 What odds on them both finishing today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 what a fix that was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 20 minutes ago, WTF said: what a fix that was To think Red Bull have been complaining about the FIA decisions all season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, manxman1980 said: To think Red Bull have been complaining about the FIA decisions all season... Well they have, and rightly so - there's been a lot of shit decisions this year and lots of them have been against Red Bull. But yeah that decision at the end was a bit suspect. Can't really see how it's defensible given the rules don't make exceptions for doing things for a good race. That said, I'm glad it made a good race at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Rosberg loving it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 I hope Mercedes protest that. I just read the relevant rule and it is very clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 18 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said: I hope Mercedes protest that. I just read the relevant rule and it is very clear. 0% chance they overturn the WDC on a protest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 It is a blatant disregard for the written rules/restart procedure that inherently altered the result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said: It is a blatant disregard for the written rules/restart procedure that inherently altered the result. Doesn't matter, they'll either do nothing or write the whole race off which would still give Max WDC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 i wonder how much latifi got paid ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 22 minutes ago, WTF said: i wonder how much latifi got paid ? It was Mick who ran Latifi wide, which is what picked up the dirt on the tyres that caused him to spin. Protected his father's legacy... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Login Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Ramseyboi said: It is a blatant disregard for the written rules/restart procedure that inherently altered the result. If that is accepted as being correct, what do the rules state the remedy is? I have seen lots of posts elsewhere complaining that the rules were not followed but why all seem to be experts on why the rules were broken none seem to state what the rules should now happen. Surely if it is demanded that the rules are followed and not " made up on the spot" then similarly what happens as a consequence should be as set out in the rules and not "made up on the spot". Seems to me that if during a game, race, etc officials make a mistake, which is what appears to have happened here, the result generally stands bu the officials get punished. I am struggling to think of any result, in any sport, that has been reversed due to a mistake by an official. At most the result might have been set aside and a game/race re-done but I cannot see that there is any chance that this race can be re-run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Lost Login said: If that is accepted as being correct, what do the rules state the remedy is? I have seen lots of posts elsewhere complaining that the rules were not followed but why all seem to be experts on why the rules were broken none seem to state what the rules should now happen. Surely if it is demanded that the rules are followed and not " made up on the spot" then similarly what happens as a consequence should be as set out in the rules and not "made up on the spot". Seems to me that if during a game, race, etc officials make a mistake, which is what appears to have happened here, the result generally stands bu the officials get punished. I am struggling to think of any result, in any sport, that has been reversed due to a mistake by an official. At most the result might have been set aside and a game/race re-done but I cannot see that there is any chance that this race can be re-run Massi bowed to pressure from Horner in his ear (Toto was just as bad) I would expect the teams direct line to a bloke trying to make massive time critical decisions may be pulled in the future. What they do about today I have no idea, but there is no grey area. All lapsed cars should have gone back ahead of the safety car. It is very clear in the rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said: Massi bowed to pressure from Horner in his ear (Toto was just as bad) Are you saying Toto didn’t hold the line? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Login Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 17 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said: What they do about today I have no idea, but there is no grey area. All lapsed cars should have gone back ahead of the safety car. It is very clear in the rules But if the complaint is that the rules were broken the punishment must be as per the rules. You are adamant the rules were broken, so presumably have access to them and read, so what do they say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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