Apple Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 From where we are all opinions on next week are valid. We just have to sit it out. Then truth will out, no doubt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 hour ago, John Wright said: It takes exactly the same time to inject an identical number of recipients with two doses assuming you inject the same number each week in each cohort, whether you start second dose after 3 or 12 weeks. Are you sure. Unless you miss a week, week 4 sees you doing double weeks 1 to 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 8 hours ago, Happier diner said: Are you sure. Unless you miss a week, week 4 sees you doing double weeks 1 to 3 Read the specification I wrote. Both are ramping anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted January 14, 2021 Author Share Posted January 14, 2021 Interesting that past COVID infections does give you protection for some time and even if you catch again the symptoms are milder. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55651518 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piebaps Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Read that too Banker. Comparatively speaking, we've had so few cases here that it will have little or no effect......probably. The study also showed that repeat cases could be asymptomatic spreaders too. Obvs excluding TJ of course who managed to catch it on multiple occasions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 14 hours ago, Happier diner said: It worries me that we are out of step with our peer Nations and I feel that may come back to haunt us. +1 It won't be long before UK citizens that have already been vaccinated and wishing to travel will be banging on No 10's door to get Boris to lift their lock-downs so that they can visit relatives and businesses everywhere else in UK, including the CD's. If Boris lifts the lock-downs we won't have anywhere near the numbers vaccinated to allow for that. Whilst I understand the need to be cautious in certain operational areas I can't help thinking that we're going to get left behind and the inevitable angst that will accompany it, on both shores. It's because we're a small community that we need to get immunity in the quickest time possible whilst continuing to test & monitor arrivals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Yes, but we are limited by supply. After they double the Pfizer injections the week after next, our stock will soon dwindle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Cambon said: Yes, but we are limited by supply. After they double the Pfizer injections the week after next, our stock will soon dwindle. So why is it then, that we could bypass UK DHSS for PPE when there wasn't enough to go around last year? We managed to do deals to get them direct fro the manufacturers. Why can't we do the same with the vaccine producers? The amount of vaccines we're looking at to do the whole Island would probably be about half of what the AstraZeneca Wrexham plant can produce in one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 44 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: +1 It won't be long before UK citizens that have already been vaccinated and wishing to travel will be banging on No 10's door to get Boris to lift their lock-downs so that they can visit relatives and businesses everywhere else in UK, including the CD's. If Boris lifts the lock-downs we won't have anywhere near the numbers vaccinated to allow for that. Whilst I understand the need to be cautious in certain operational areas I can't help thinking that we're going to get left behind and the inevitable angst that will accompany it, on both shores. It's because we're a small community that we need to get immunity in the quickest time possible whilst continuing to test & monitor arrivals. Total drivel. Opening IOM borders is still going to be governed by the prevalence in UK. Not vaccination levels here. UK prevalence, even with vaccination won’t be anywhere near the 1/5000 or 20/100,000 level this side of September 2021. By then IOM will have vaccinated 70% of the 16+ population. 14 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: So why is it then, that we could bypass UK DHSS for PPE when there wasn't enough to go around last year? We managed to do deals to get them direct fro the manufacturers. Why can't we do the same with the vaccine producers? The amount of vaccines we're looking at to do the whole Island would probably be about half of what the AstraZeneca Wrexham plant can produce in one day. Price. UK have a great deal. Effectively cost. They aren’t going to sell 170,000 doses cheap. Waiting list. They’ve pre sold everything for the rest of 2021 and into 2022 Administration logistics. Let’s say we get 170,000 doses tomorrow it’s still going to take months to administer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted January 14, 2021 Author Share Posted January 14, 2021 33 minutes ago, Cambon said: Yes, but we are limited by supply. After they double the Pfizer injections the week after next, our stock will soon dwindle. We get the same supplies as other crown dependencies who are well ahead of us in rolling out, FFS we’ve been sitting on the Oxford one for 10 days already checking paperwork!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) There will come a point where its all meaningless anyway. Recovering from covid affords roughly the same protection as the vaccine. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jan/14/recovering-from-covid-gives-similar-level-of-protection-to-vaccine Edited January 14, 2021 by the stinking enigma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted January 14, 2021 Author Share Posted January 14, 2021 We’ve done our 3 days vaccinations so all stop for another 4 days https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/more-than-2200-have-received-covid-vaccine/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Banker said: We get the same supplies as other crown dependencies who are well ahead of us in rolling out, FFS we’ve been sitting on the Oxford one for 10 days already checking paperwork!! Ok, let's watch what happens with Jersey when people start to require second doses. They will probably have to stop or at least limit first doses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 32 minutes ago, Cambon said: Ok, let's watch what happens with Jersey when people start to require second doses. They will probably have to stop or at least limit first doses. Jersey have already adopted the UK approach of delivering the second dose of vaccine 12 weeks after the first. The general feeling here seems to be that the government are right to go with the manufacturer's recommendation regarding the second dose at 21 days, but you can't have it both ways. You can either give lots of first doses and delay the second dose (like Jersey) or you can give fewer first doses to ensure you have the vaccine available to give the second dose at 21 days. I am sure that there would be plenty of criticism of the Government if they decided to delay the second dose. As I understand it, the initial supplies of vaccine are determined by the framework put in place by the World Health Organisation to ensure fairness. I don't think you can just ring up the suppliers and order it (unlike PPE). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted January 14, 2021 Author Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Cambon said: Ok, let's watch what happens with Jersey when people start to require second doses. They will probably have to stop or at least limit first doses. Yes let’s see, Jersey are gearing up for 3000 per day ,Guernsey who don’t have any community spread are also well ahead of us starting 2/3 weeks before with Oxford vaccine rolled out in Alderney already Edited January 14, 2021 by Banker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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