snowman Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 5 hours ago, Not a paid influencer said: More about "vaccine" efficacy. From the CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention), 6 August 2021: 74% of COVID-19 infections occurred in fully vaccinated persons. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e2.htm People like Hugh G Rection and myself are not here to tell anyone what to think. We encourage study of relevant information and rejection / acceptance of such as you see fit, with a view to informed and free choice about receiving a vaccine. Some here might have wrongly thought that I was trying to present information that supports an anti-vax position. On the contrary, you might find information in the linked material that you interpret as pro-vax. As Hugh indicated, this is about exercising your human rights to informed and free choice in matters such as this. We respect your right to choose as you see fit, and we expect the same from you. You are demonstrating a failure to understand maths Also, as the majority of the adult population is vaccinated, it’s logical that many people admitted to hospital will be vaccinated. It’s more relevant to look at death rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not a paid influencer Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Legal guidance on informed consent: 1. Did you agree to being injected with fully informed consent? 2. Did you know it is a criminal offence to administer a medical procedure to another without fully informed consent? 3. Did you expect these injections to protect you from infection? (and to gain your freedoms back?) 4. Did you expect to be required to have ongoing boosters to maintain your “fully jabbed” status? 5. Were you aware and did you understand there are alternative safe and effective prophylactics and treatments available that could be utilised, but are being blocked? 6. Were you psychologically influenced to be jabbed based on insufficient and/or false information? A senior UK lawyer, Anna de Buisseret, is working with a team of lawyers and various campaign groups (e.g. World Doctors Alliance) with a view to serving notices of liability on vaccinators and potential criminal trials for Crimes against Humanity. Anna de Buisseret discusses this subject here: https://www.bitchute.com/video/AYvCetnuH5aG/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Not a paid influencer said: Legal guidance on informed consent: 1. Did you agree to being injected with fully informed consent? 2. Did you know it is a criminal offence to administer a medical procedure to another without fully informed consent? 3. Did you expect these injections to protect you from infection? (and to gain your freedoms back?) 4. Did you expect to be required to have ongoing boosters to maintain your “fully jabbed” status? 5. Were you aware and did you understand there are alternative safe and effective prophylactics and treatments available that could be utilised, but are being blocked? 6. Were you psychologically influenced to be jabbed based on insufficient and/or false information? A senior UK lawyer, Anna de Buisseret, is working with a team of lawyers and various campaign groups (e.g. World Doctors Alliance) with a view to serving notices of liability on vaccinators and potential criminal trials for Crimes against Humanity. Anna de Buisseret discusses this subject here: https://www.bitchute.com/video/AYvCetnuH5aG/ Good luck to her! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Not a paid influencer said: A senior UK lawyer, Anna de Buisseret, is working with a team of lawyers and various campaign groups (e.g. World Doctors Alliance) with a view to serving notices of liability on vaccinators and potential criminal trials for Crimes against Humanity. I'll bet you a broken nose that this won't happen (fake courts don't count). What do you reckon, say two years from now? If it has actually happened you get a free shot, break my nose in public, Castletown square. But when it doesn't happen I get to break yours. Edited August 7, 2021 by TheTeapot 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 News from a large UK hospital - personal communication from a contact. Not Noble’s before anyone stupid suggests it is. Maternity unit - 4 patients on ventilators with covid. All had to be delivered early. At least one going for withdrawal of treatment imminently. All unvaxxed. Main ITU - 28 ventilated covid patients. 26 unvaxxed, the other 2 with serious comorbidities that render them vulnerable to the slightest thing. This is not made up political bullshit to persuade people to be jabbed for unknown conspiracy reasons. Get vaccinated. 6 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, wrighty said: News from a large UK hospital - personal communication from a contact. Not Noble’s before anyone stupid suggests it is. Maternity unit - 4 patients on ventilators with covid. All had to be delivered early. At least one going for withdrawal of treatment imminently. All unvaxxed. Main ITU - 28 ventilated covid patients. 26 unvaxxed, the other 2 with serious comorbidities that render them vulnerable to the slightest thing. This is not made up political bullshit to persuade people to be jabbed for unknown conspiracy reasons. Get vaccinated. The problem is the antivaxers just think it's the flu or a bad cold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 18 hours ago, Not a paid influencer said: As Hugh indicated, this is about exercising your human rights to informed and free choice in matters such as this. We respect your right to choose as you see fit, and we expect the same from you. OK. I respect that. In order to give some balance please can you outline the alternative strategies / treatments that in your opinion would have been implemented to combat this infection if a vaccination strategy had not been developed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 22 minutes ago, wrighty said: News from a large UK hospital - personal communication from a contact. Not Noble’s before anyone stupid suggests it is. Maternity unit - 4 patients on ventilators with covid. All had to be delivered early. At least one going for withdrawal of treatment imminently. All unvaxxed. Main ITU - 28 ventilated covid patients. 26 unvaxxed, the other 2 with serious comorbidities that render them vulnerable to the slightest thing. This is not made up political bullshit to persuade people to be jabbed for unknown conspiracy reasons. Get vaccinated. delivered much differently to the response you gave about patients in nobles vaxxed or unvaxxed when it just wasn't that simple apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, WTF said: delivered much differently to the response you gave about patients in nobles vaxxed or unvaxxed when it just wasn't that simple apparently. Your point being? My message to ‘get vaxxed’ has always been the same. I can’t be as specific or direct with the local situation due to confidentiality. I’m sure you understand that. When I said it was not simple I think I was talking about the ‘with covid’ ‘because of covid’ question. I’m not on about that here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hampsterkahn Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, wrighty said: News from a large UK hospital - personal communication from a contact. Not Noble’s before anyone stupid suggests it is. Maternity unit - 4 patients on ventilators with covid. All had to be delivered early. At least one going for withdrawal of treatment imminently. All unvaxxed. Main ITU - 28 ventilated covid patients. 26 unvaxxed, the other 2 with serious comorbidities that render them vulnerable to the slightest thing. This is not made up political bullshit to persuade people to be jabbed for unknown conspiracy reasons. Get vaccinated. I have contacts in UK hospitals and they are describing situations which are very similar. For a pregnant woman to get Covid and end up needing intensive therapy is a desperately dangerous and tragic situation. I am with Wrighty here - Get vaccinated! Edited August 7, 2021 by hampsterkahn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 1 hour ago, hampsterkahn said: I am with Wrighty here - Get vaccinated! On behalf of all your pseuds, please answer this question: Which is more important, personal gain as a paid influencer or truth and the welfare of our people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanShimmin Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 How many people have tried to be vaccinated but been rebuffed and told all the vaccines are marked for second doses and they'll get back in touch? I know of at least 5 people this week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 3 hours ago, Not a paid influencer said: Legal guidance on informed consent: 1. Did you agree to being injected with fully informed consent? 2. Did you know it is a criminal offence to administer a medical procedure to another without fully informed consent? 3. Did you expect these injections to protect you from infection? (and to gain your freedoms back?) 4. Did you expect to be required to have ongoing boosters to maintain your “fully jabbed” status? 5. Were you aware and did you understand there are alternative safe and effective prophylactics and treatments available that could be utilised, but are being blocked? 6. Were you psychologically influenced to be jabbed based on insufficient and/or false information? A senior UK lawyer, Anna de Buisseret, is working with a team of lawyers and various campaign groups (e.g. World Doctors Alliance) with a view to serving notices of liability on vaccinators and potential criminal trials for Crimes against Humanity. Anna de Buisseret discusses this subject here: https://www.bitchute.com/video/AYvCetnuH5aG/ 1. Yes. In fact I can never remember a medical procedure where as much medical information was supplied in advance and at the time. Or care taken to ensure consent was both free and informed. 2. Yes (note that this does not apply to emergency treatment). 3. I expected that vaccination would increase my protection from infection as well as reducing very substantially chances of hospitalisation and death. Anyone who thought it would give complete protection and let them do whatever in any circumstances doesn't understand how medicine, or indeed life, works. 4. Yes and this was much discussed even before the vaccine was released. 5. Blocked so much apparently that you haven't bothered to say what they are. But even if it was true you need to show that they are more effective than vaccination. 6. No. But then I don't believe anti-vaxxer nonsense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, AlanShimmin said: I know of at least 5 people this week. 5, it's the magic number. Sheight isn't it? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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