TerryFuchwit Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 15 minutes ago, b4mbi said: Can't see how that makes sense at all using a risk based approach to the borders. It's only coming into the Island from transportation of people!! Maybe talking 200 vaccines for IOMSPC staff, they are the group most at risk of coming into contact with the virus on a regular basis!! The at risk groups on Island, are not at as much risk if the virus is not circulating here. How many doses do we have 10,000? what's 200 off that? 2% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted February 9, 2021 Author Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 hour ago, jaymann said: I'd argue that the IOMSPCo staff are more important to vaccinate than the dentists and opticians that have already received it. I agree & with c13000 in stock it’s a small amount, all the charity workers also vaccinated as they may come into contact with vulnerable people 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsmeee Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Banker said: Correct but lots of Ramsey people whining about having to travel, also Peel lot asking for hub as well They’d soon get to the airport if they were going on holiday. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 5 hours ago, Nellie said: The local GP's would mop up people who had genuine issues with travel or those who are housebound, and the DHSC was trying to agree a deal with those GP's. I would have thought that aspect would have been negotiated and settled before Christmas. I would be happy to do the jabs , say, at £5 a pop? 100 a day ? Where do I sign up for the training ? I can bring my own oranges... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 33 minutes ago, Apple said: I would have thought that aspect would have been negotiated and settled before Christmas. Remember that this is the practice that were exposed as doing something like 75% of consultations by phone, six months after lockdown finished, so visiting housebound patients, in their own homes, probably doesn't hold a lot of appeal! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share Posted February 10, 2021 Looks like the advice now is to spread the time period between doses to 8-12 weeks for maximum benefit, wonder if Ashie will change our policy to align with UK , Channel Islands are between 6-12 weeks. https://news.sky.com/story/oxford-astrazeneca-vaccine-recommended-for-all-adults-say-scientists-advising-the-world-health-organisation-12214373 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 19 minutes ago, Banker said: Looks like the advice now is to spread the time period between doses to 8-12 weeks for maximum benefit, wonder if Ashie will change our policy to align with UK , Channel Islands are between 6-12 weeks. https://news.sky.com/story/oxford-astrazeneca-vaccine-recommended-for-all-adults-say-scientists-advising-the-world-health-organisation-12214373 What do pfizer and Astra Zeneca say? And is it really important what gap as long as we get both doses in. 3 weeks or 12 it takes the same time eventually. Marathon, not a sprint. I’d rather we stuck the manufacturers data and recommendation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share Posted February 10, 2021 21 minutes ago, John Wright said: What do pfizer and Astra Zeneca say? And is it really important what gap as long as we get both doses in. 3 weeks or 12 it takes the same time eventually. Marathon, not a sprint. I’d rather we stuck the manufacturers data and recommendation. Advice is from WHO and nothing to contradict from manufacturers so assume in side with it. Here’s BBC update https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56011981 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 52 minutes ago, Banker said: Advice is from WHO and nothing to contradict from manufacturers so assume in side with it. Here’s BBC update https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56011981 Big assumption. I can’t find any peer reviewed data published to back up what the WHO is reported to have allegedly said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 minute ago, John Wright said: Big assumption. I can’t find any peer reviewed data published to back up what the WHO is reported to have allegedly said. It’s from SAGE group of WHO from analysis of all data and it’s not allegedly said it’s fact as reported in most news sites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 11 hours ago, John Wright said: Big assumption. I can’t find any peer reviewed data published to back up what the WHO is reported to have allegedly said. There is a paper looking at the additional data gathered between the end of the AZ trial and December 2020. It appears to show greater effectiveness if the second dose is given after 12 weeks rather than 4 weeks (82% as opposed to 55% with the 4 week schedule). It is currently being reviewed by The Lancet. Here is the BMJ report on it https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n326 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted February 11, 2021 Author Share Posted February 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Newbie said: There is a paper looking at the additional data gathered between the end of the AZ trial and December 2020. It appears to show greater effectiveness if the second dose is given after 12 weeks rather than 4 weeks (82% as opposed to 55% with the 4 week schedule). It is currently being reviewed by The Lancet. Here is the BMJ report on it https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n326 Hopefully someone will ask question tomorrow as maybe our population won’t be as well protected as we were told 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duck of Atholl Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 My wife is a vaccine volunteer across. She had the AZ vaccine Sunday night. She ended up with flu like symptoms for about 48hours. She also said that they have greater capacity than there are people being put though but that may be a geographical thing. One thing she did say is that they are super careful not to waste. When they get down to the last vial if there are a couple of shots left and no one scheduled for a jab they'll grab anyone for a jab which I find reassuring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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madmanxpilot Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 20 hours ago, John Wright said: Big assumption. I can’t find any peer reviewed data published to back up what the WHO is reported to have allegedly said. The WHO scientists will be peers in their own right. They've not allegedly said it, they have said it. https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-stories/detail/the-oxford-astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-what-you-need-to-know They won't have made that pronouncement without a thorough review of available data. The manufacturer has recommended increasing the dosing interval. https://www.astrazeneca.com/media-centre/press-releases/2021/covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca-confirms-protection-against-severe-disease-hospitalisation-and-death-in-the-primary-analysis-of-phase-iii-trials.html Surely the IOM will 'follow the science' and adapt it's own dosing strategy accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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