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Vaccine- who will have it?


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15 minutes ago, b4mbi said:

Can't see how that makes sense at all using a risk based approach to the borders. It's only coming into the Island from transportation of people!!

Maybe talking 200 vaccines for IOMSPC staff, they are the group most at risk of coming into contact with the virus on a regular basis!!

The at risk groups on Island, are not at as much risk if the virus is not circulating here.

How many doses do we have 10,000? what's 200 off that?

2%:thumbsup:

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1 hour ago, jaymann said:

I'd argue that the IOMSPCo staff are more important to vaccinate than the dentists and opticians that have already received it.

I agree & with c13000 in stock it’s a small amount, all the charity workers also vaccinated as they may come into contact with vulnerable people 

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5 hours ago, Nellie said:

The local GP's would mop up people who had genuine issues with travel or those who are housebound, and the DHSC was trying to agree a deal with those GP's.

I would have thought that aspect would have been negotiated and settled before Christmas. I would be happy to do the jabs , say, at £5 a pop?

100 a day ?

Where do I sign up for the training ? I can bring my own oranges...

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33 minutes ago, Apple said:

I would have thought that aspect would have been negotiated and settled before Christmas.

Remember that this is the practice that were exposed as doing something like 75% of consultations by phone, six months after lockdown finished, so visiting housebound patients, in their own homes, probably doesn't hold a lot of appeal! 

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Looks like the advice now is to spread the time period between doses to 8-12 weeks for maximum benefit, wonder if Ashie will change our policy to align with UK , Channel Islands are between 6-12 weeks.

 https://news.sky.com/story/oxford-astrazeneca-vaccine-recommended-for-all-adults-say-scientists-advising-the-world-health-organisation-12214373

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19 minutes ago, Banker said:

Looks like the advice now is to spread the time period between doses to 8-12 weeks for maximum benefit, wonder if Ashie will change our policy to align with UK , Channel Islands are between 6-12 weeks.

 https://news.sky.com/story/oxford-astrazeneca-vaccine-recommended-for-all-adults-say-scientists-advising-the-world-health-organisation-12214373

What do pfizer and Astra Zeneca say? And is it really important what gap as long as we get both doses in. 3 weeks or 12 it takes the same time eventually. Marathon, not a sprint. I’d rather we stuck the manufacturers data and recommendation.

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21 minutes ago, John Wright said:

What do pfizer and Astra Zeneca say? And is it really important what gap as long as we get both doses in. 3 weeks or 12 it takes the same time eventually. Marathon, not a sprint. I’d rather we stuck the manufacturers data and recommendation.

Advice is from WHO and nothing to contradict from manufacturers so assume in side with it. Here’s BBC update https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56011981

 

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52 minutes ago, Banker said:

Advice is from WHO and nothing to contradict from manufacturers so assume in side with it. Here’s BBC update https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56011981

 

Big assumption. I can’t find any peer reviewed data published to back up what the WHO is reported to have allegedly said.

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1 minute ago, John Wright said:

Big assumption. I can’t find any peer reviewed data published to back up what the WHO is reported to have allegedly said.

It’s from SAGE group of WHO from analysis of all data and it’s not allegedly said it’s fact as reported in most news sites.

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11 hours ago, John Wright said:

Big assumption. I can’t find any peer reviewed data published to back up what the WHO is reported to have allegedly said.

There is a paper looking at the additional data gathered between the end of the AZ trial and December 2020. It appears to show greater effectiveness if the second dose is given after 12 weeks rather than 4 weeks (82% as opposed to 55% with the 4 week schedule). It is currently being reviewed by The Lancet. Here is the BMJ report on it

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n326

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1 hour ago, Newbie said:

There is a paper looking at the additional data gathered between the end of the AZ trial and December 2020. It appears to show greater effectiveness if the second dose is given after 12 weeks rather than 4 weeks (82% as opposed to 55% with the 4 week schedule). It is currently being reviewed by The Lancet. Here is the BMJ report on it

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n326

Hopefully someone will ask question tomorrow as maybe our population won’t be as well protected as we were told

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My wife is a vaccine volunteer across. She had the AZ vaccine Sunday night. She ended up with flu like symptoms for about 48hours. She also said that they have greater capacity than there are people being put though but that may be a geographical thing.

One thing she did say is that they are super careful not to waste. When they get down to the last vial if there are a couple of shots left and no one scheduled for a jab they'll grab anyone for a jab which I find reassuring.

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20 hours ago, John Wright said:

Big assumption. I can’t find any peer reviewed data published to back up what the WHO is reported to have allegedly said.

The WHO scientists will be peers in their own right. They've not allegedly said it, they have said it.  

https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-stories/detail/the-oxford-astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-what-you-need-to-know

 

They won't have made that pronouncement without a thorough review of available data. The manufacturer has recommended increasing the dosing interval.  

https://www.astrazeneca.com/media-centre/press-releases/2021/covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca-confirms-protection-against-severe-disease-hospitalisation-and-death-in-the-primary-analysis-of-phase-iii-trials.html

 

Surely the IOM will 'follow the science' and adapt it's own dosing strategy accordingly.

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