HeliX Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Apple said: Zarley - is it totally secure now? Genuine question as that has always been my reason for not doing it. There's no such thing as totally secure. But as it's a health related app containing PII, it will have been thoroughly tested under the NCSC's CHECK Scheme. This isn't a guarantee that nobody will find a way in eventually, nor that human error can never happen, nor any guarantee of total security. But it is a certification that at time of testing, either no serious issues were found, or they were remediated shortly thereafter. EDIT: Actually may not have been mandatory for it to have been a CHECK scheme test, as I don't think the developer is public sector. But regardless it will have been pentested. Edited December 10, 2020 by HeliX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, HeliX said: There's no such thing as totally secure. But as it's a health related app containing PII, it will have been thoroughly tested under the NCSC's CHECK Scheme. Thanks for the link. Useful information, but is it an assumption that we have undergone pen testing on the island. I am also still dubious as to where my data ends up (without my knowledge or per mission) but that is a different matter. Soon it will all be in the hands of Manx Care I assume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Just now, Apple said: Thanks for the link. Useful information, but is it an assumption that we have undergone pen testing on the island. I am also still dubious as to where my data ends up (without my knowledge or per mission) but that is a different matter. Soon it will all be in the hands of Manx Care I assume. I don't think the island has had its own special deployment of PatientAccess, so no separate testing needed. GDPR makes it very difficult (at the penalty of gigantic fines) to misuse people's data. It's a massive headache for the organisational side of the coin, but a great boon to the population. Other than having to click through disclaimers about cookies on every single website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 I don't know Helix, I have heard of several breaches of GDPR in the health services this year that have been admitted to. As they have been 'self confessed' I think the Information Commissioner has taken a light view? Will look again at Patient Access. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryFuchwit Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 59 minutes ago, Apple said: I don't know Helix, I have heard of several breaches of GDPR in the health services this year that have been admitted to. As they have been 'self confessed' I think the Information Commissioner has taken a light view? Mistakes happen. In the main itsno big deal. So a light view is exactly what should be taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Apple said: I don't know Helix, I have heard of several breaches of GDPR in the health services this year that have been admitted to. As they have been 'self confessed' I think the Information Commissioner has taken a light view? Will look again at Patient Access. Hearing about them is a good thing. It was before all this when there was no obligation for a provider to inform anyone that was bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted December 10, 2020 Author Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Apple said: I don't know Helix, I have heard of several breaches of GDPR in the health services this year that have been admitted to. As they have been 'self confessed' I think the Information Commissioner has taken a light view? Will look again at Patient Access. Any GDPR breaches should be shown on website, I doubt very much they would have confessed to anything without being found out !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarley Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Apple said: Zarley - is it totally secure now? Genuine question as that has always been my reason for not doing it. They've recently added an extra security step after you enter your password, where you enter, in drop-downs, a random choice (their choice) of three different letters/numbers from a "memorable word". The same as online banking. (Lloyds, anyway.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 I predict here and now that the sputnik vaccine will turn out to be the best one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 14 hours ago, the stinking enigma said: I predict here and now that the sputnik vaccine will turn out to be the best one. You mean you are just guessing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 No. I have fully evaluated each one in my shed, am in possesion of 6 doctorates and have arrived at my conclusion through a full and comprehensive testing process. Of course im guessing you fucking idiot, thats the sort of shit neil down usually comes up with. I am right though. Usually 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yootalkin2me Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 10 hours ago, Happier diner said: You mean you are just guessing Er....predicting is pretty much guessing you halfwit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 13 hours ago, the stinking enigma said: No. I have fully evaluated each one in my shed, am in possesion of 6 doctorates and have arrived at my conclusion through a full and comprehensive testing process. Of course im guessing you fucking idiot, thats the sort of shit neil down usually comes up with. I am right though. Usually Is there any need to be so offensive. I was just asking? If you are just guessing and you are usually right are you s good guesser? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Yes 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 Jersey starting vaccinations today, Guernsey early coming week. not sure why our supply is so far behind the others, another Ashie & Howie muck up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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