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Vaccine- who will have it?


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21 minutes ago, asitis said:

Two very vulnerable friends of my wife spent ages on the phone today, only to be told ring back tomorrow !

Logistically it doesn't seem to be improving at any speed.

 

Maybe they have been sending them by Hermes. Allegedly someone knocks (once and quietly) on the Hospital door each morning and stuffs a "you were out" card through the letter box before anyone answers. The packages then get returned back to the UK where they get used up (maybe). This could be the reason we are behind even though we get a proportional share.

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30 minutes ago, Roxanne said:

How long does it go on until someone says, we could have done better, and we're going to do better...

I think the closest we get to that is ‘We’re learning all the time’ closely followed by ‘Well we had 8 months of freedom so we’ve been doing something right’

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1 hour ago, Two-lane said:

I have received a letter inviting me to register for vaccination. I have already received one injection and have a date for the second.

This implies that they have more than one database, and they are not talking to each other. In that case, and knowing there would be inconsistencies, it would be sensible to have included the words "Please ignore this letter if...".  But they didn't.

They've obviously panicked that they missed a lot of people in the 70+ age group and have started sending more letters out without checking.  As you say people should just ignore it, but some may be worried that they are taking someone else's slot or whatever.

One of the odd things about the current 'ramped up' vaccination programme is that they only ever seem to be using one of their 'hubs' at any one time.  All yesterday's were at Chester Street for instance.  It suggests they never needed them both in the first place.

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Looks like we have changed Pfizer dose timings as well but nothing announced, this is from exit document 

IOM has also recently made the decision to increase the dose interval for the Oxford/AstraZeneca and Pfizer vaccines following the latest evidence to confirm that the interval between doses does not impact efficacy.
In making this decision, we have been guided by evidence which has been reviewed by senior clinicians within the Department of Health and Social Care, and it will benefit our progress as more people will be vaccinated with one dose at an earlier stage, but does mean that the second will be delayed.
 

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58 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

They've obviously panicked that they missed a lot of people in the 70+ age group and have started sending more letters out without checking.  As you say people should just ignore it, but some may be worried that they are taking someone else's slot or whatever.

One of the odd things about the current 'ramped up' vaccination programme is that they only ever seem to be using one of their 'hubs' at any one time.  All yesterday's were at Chester Street for instance.  It suggests they never needed them both in the first place.

https://covid19.gov.im/general-information/covid-19-vaccination-statistics/

shows there are days in  the week when both are in use.

Now if only  one was set up  and in operation, and there was  some fault (power failure/water leak, whatever) we would no doubt criticise the lack of foresight for not having any other provision set up and ready to go.

What if there is another upswing of supply? Surely having two sites with ample parking has attractions for the  delivery of vaccines? I would imagine that  there is a finite throughput at either site with the need to maintain social distancing?

 

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Good news being reported about the Pfizer vaccine's ability to neutralise the Brazilian strain just as well as the original strain.

 

'The COVID-19 vaccine from Pfizer Inc and BioNTech SE was able to neutralize a new variant of the coronavirus spreading rapidly in Brazil, according to a laboratory study published in the New England Journal of Medicine on Monday. 

Blood taken from people who had been given the vaccine neutralized an engineered version of the virus that contained the same mutations carried on the spike portion of the highly contagious P.1 variant first identified in Brazil, the study conducted by scientists from the companies and the University of Texas Medical Branch found' 

The scientists said the neutralising ability was roughly equivalent the vaccine's effect on a previous less contagious version of the virus from last year.'

 

Techno speak: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2102017

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