TerryFuchwit Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said: Easy. Smoking...people didn't want people in pubs to emit nasty chemicals that kill them. Covid...people don't want people in pubs to emit nasty viruses that kill them. Level playing field...so all pubs have choice taken away from them. So a perfect analogy. You're delusional if you think a national ban will arise on being inside a public space without a vaccination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, TerryFuchwit said: You're delusional if you think a national ban will arise on being inside a public space without a vaccination. I can see it coming in for around the first 6 months of trying to get back to 'normality'. Boris is taking it seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryFuchwit Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said: I can see it coming in for around the first 6 months of trying to get back to 'normality'. Boris is taking it seriously. Boris is an idiot making soundbites.to pacify the nutters. Imagine telling retail shops "oh yeh, you can open again. Just not allowed anyone in unless they're vaccinated" . Immediately taking families out of the high street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 1 minute ago, TerryFuchwit said: Boris is an idiot making soundbites.to pacify the nutters. Imagine telling retail shops "oh yeh, you can open again. Just not allowed anyone in unless they're vaccinated" . Immediately taking families out of the high street. Better 6 months of that than another 2 years of lockdowns and numerous uncontrollable variants arising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryFuchwit Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 46 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said: Better 6 months of that than another 2 years of lockdowns and numerous uncontrollable variants arising. Or it's just better we accept it's always going to be around. Like other viral conditions. Accept some people will die. Like they do every year. Tailor your lifestyle accordingly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, TerryFuchwit said: Or it's just better we accept it's always going to be around. Like other viral conditions. Accept some people will die. Like they do every year. Tailor your lifestyle accordingly. Are you one of those anti-vaccine types? Just asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 1 hour ago, TerryFuchwit said: There won't ever be a position where someone can litigate a pub or shop etc because they think the caught a virus there. I can't see how any public liability insurance issue would present itself? But the problem might well arise with certification. Someone might well claim that they caught Covid in a place that demanded certificates and so led led to a reasonable expectation that such a thing would not happen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Roger Mexico said: But the problem might well arise with certification. Someone might well claim that they caught Covid in a place that demanded certificates and so led led to a reasonable expectation that such a thing would not happen. Exactly! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piebaps Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Not sure I see the relevance. The vaccine doesn't prevent you catching the virus and while there are signs that it may reduce transmission they're as yet unquantified. How would you know whether you caught it from a vaccinated person or an unvaccinated person? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, piebaps said: Not sure I see the relevance. The vaccine doesn't prevent you catching the virus and while there are signs that it may reduce transmission they're as yet unquantified. How would you know whether you caught it from a vaccinated person or an unvaccinated person? Again, exactly! This virus is here to stay. Like Spanish flu, AIDS, and all the rest. We live with them. Last year's lockdowns I felt at the time were an over reaction. However, nobody really knew what we were dealing with, or how to deal with it. That situation has completely changed now. The problem is that we have to exit this situation in a well controlled, managed way. You can look back and criticise as much as you want. Hindsight is amazing. It is 2020 vision. :-) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryFuchwit Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 3 hours ago, Albert Tatlock said: Are you one of those anti-vaccine types? Just asking. I'm fully behind the vaccination concept. Just not behind the delusional paranoid brigade that think life can't go on with covid in the world. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 The Times is reporting that the UK will start to offer vaccines to Ireland. Smart move politically, but more importantly from a Public Health perspective https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/uk-to-offer-covid-vaccines-to-ireland-nhxjftcwd 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 Howard’s view on vaccinations passport https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/vaccination-passports-could-be-a-step-too-far-says-chief-minister/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 46 minutes ago, Newbie said: The Times is reporting that the UK will start to offer vaccines to Ireland. Smart move politically, but more importantly from a Public Health perspective https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/uk-to-offer-covid-vaccines-to-ireland-nhxjftcwd Is that the same Ireland that just 2 weeks ago halted the roll out due to even a tiny sniff of a problem with the AZ vaccine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 48 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Is that the same Ireland that just 2 weeks ago halted the roll out due to even a tiny sniff of a problem with the AZ vaccine. Maybe they will follow Macron's lead and offer it to people over 55 but under 65! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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