TheTeapot Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 37 minutes ago, Banker said: still unsure That's unusual 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: Unless someone else has mentioned it further up the thread I was told earlier today that the vaccine program for IOM will start January 4th 2021. Why is that a surprise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Just now, Happier diner said: Why is that a surprise? Low uptake! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted December 19, 2020 Author Share Posted December 19, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: Unless someone else has mentioned it further up the thread I was told earlier today that the vaccine program for IOM will start January 4th 2021. Ashie said next week as long as indemnity acceptable and decision would be made yesterday but as mentioned heard nothing more and not sure what he can do if paperwork not acceptable. Most health services have just cracked on and vaccinated Edited December 19, 2020 by Banker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 40 minutes ago, Banker said: Also still unsure why we will take to September to vaccinate over 50s when most major European countries are looking to have majority of population done by summer.the below is from main Spanish news paper It is expected that 60% of Spain’s population of 47 million will be vaccinated by August Because they probably have scores, if not hundreds of thousands of qualified staff to administer the injections. How many has the Island? Plus, the process 1 minute ago, Banker said: has to be carried out in tranches, with 2 doses of the same batch of vaccine given to each tranche. 2 minutes ago, Banker said: Most health services have just. Racked in and vaccinated Have they? Where've you gotten this from, or is it just your opinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 18 minutes ago, quilp said: Because they probably have scores, if not hundreds of thousands of qualified staff to administer the injections. How many has the Island? Plus, the process has to be carried out in tranches, with 2 doses of the same batch of vaccine given to each tranche. Have they? Where've you gotten this from, or is it just your opinion? Surely Spain only has, pro rata, the same numbers of qualified staff as we do. So why don't we have such an ambitious target. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 You're asking the wrong person. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, quilp said: You're asking the wrong person. Hmmmmm. Fair point. I am just assuming I suppose, that we would have a similar proportion. It seems the current rate determinate is the availability of the vaccine. Saying that, we have it but haven't started yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Well, it has to defrost and thaw from its unshakeable and stable state (take notice, Ashford D.) before dilution and administration. And thawing really needs to be done in a refrigerator, slowly. Vaccine thawed at room temperature is good for 30 minutes only. Slow and steady comes to mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 44 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Surely Spain only has, pro rata, the same numbers of qualified staff as we do. So why don't we have such an ambitious target. Spain hasn’t started yet. Availability of vaccine may be the determinant at this stage, but as production ramps up and other vaccines are approved that should be less of a determining factor. Spain has similar age distribution. 19.65% over 65. IOM is 19.9%. Spain had 13,000 vaccination centres ready by 24/11, we are starting to prepare ours now. The military will be helping out at vaccination centres, IOM doesn’t have that back up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted December 19, 2020 Author Share Posted December 19, 2020 1 hour ago, quilp said: Because they probably have scores, if not hundreds of thousands of qualified staff to administer the injections. How many has the Island? Plus, the process has to be carried out in tranches, with 2 doses of the same batch of vaccine given to each tranche. Have they? Where've you gotten this from, or is it just your opinion? Jersey & Guernsey as confirmed by our Hero Ashie!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted December 19, 2020 Author Share Posted December 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, John Wright said: Spain hasn’t started yet. Availability of vaccine may be the determinant at this stage, but as production ramps up and other vaccines are approved that should be less of a determining factor. Spain has similar age distribution. 19.65% over 65. IOM is 19.9%. Spain had 13,000 vaccination centres ready by 24/11, we are starting to prepare ours now. The military will be helping out at vaccination centres, IOM doesn’t have that back up. Starting 27/12 according to el pais Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 17 minutes ago, Banker said: Starting 27/12 according to el pais It’s all up in the air. EMA hasn’t approved the vaccine yet. They’re meeting on 21/12 with 29/12 as a back up date for the decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted December 19, 2020 Author Share Posted December 19, 2020 11 minutes ago, John Wright said: It’s all up in the air. EMA hasn’t approved the vaccine yet. They’re meeting on 21/12 with 29/12 as a back up date for the decision. Just quoting from paper https://english.elpais.com/society/2020-12-18/spains-coronavirus-vaccine-drive-set-to-start-on-december-27.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 10 minutes ago, Banker said: Just quoting from paper https://english.elpais.com/society/2020-12-18/spains-coronavirus-vaccine-drive-set-to-start-on-december-27.html The article makes it plain that the 27/12 date is dependent on EMA approval. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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