Vaccine- who will have it?

[The Voice of Reason]

5 hours ago, Boris Johnson said:

Come on John, that is a bit pedantic, you know what Andy meant

Well he is a lawyer.

[John Wright]

It was meant light heartedly. But it is true.

UK companies only manufacture AZ, at Oxford and Keele, and it’s transported to Wrexham to go in the vials.

Given where we are in the vaccination programme, and that AZ isn’t used in under 40’s, and that the  majority of the 100 million doses ordered has been delivered, and a substantial part injected, and that current UK based manufacturing capacity is between 250-400 million doses ( out of worldwide  3 billion doses ) a year it would be surprising if most were not not being exported.

As for pfizer and moderna it’s all imported, but again given where the vaccination programme is, and that UK ordered 40 million pfizer and 17 million moderna, it’s nearly all arrived, and lots of it is in arms.

UK is still injecting an average of about 1 million doses weekly. With first doses running around 35-40,000. That’s down from 3,500,000-4,000.000 weekly three months ago. And the headline figure will start dropping rapidly as the programme approaches its end in late August through to mid September.

I can’t find stock figures for UK, or build up for any autumn  booster campaign. But the volume of original orders should be enough to cover booster delivery. Of the 157 million doses ordered 94 million have been injected.

 

[Banker]

NHS app live in 2 weeks, apparently!

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/access-to-nhs-covid-pass-in-the-next-fortnight/?fbclid=IwAR0S0GM-b31_kKWXAElFvdDC1JPNSvIbGPpfmxXXyP_rmZpjDmv3jzcM1QM

 

[Andy Onchan]

Not sure if this has been posted before but In case anyone is in doubt about how important vaccines are watch this:
https://www.gresham.ac.uk/lectures-and-events/vaccination

[WTF]

how safe ?

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9928939/BBC-presenter-Lisa-Shaw-died-complications-caused-AstraZeneca-covid-jab-coroner-rules.html

[TheTeapot]

Very.

[WTF]

not very enough for some.

[swoopy2110]

7 minutes ago, WTF said:

not very enough for some.

"Both vaccines came with a tiny risk of causing blood clots, with scientists branding their safety profiles 'broadly similar'. Pfizer's jab may even be more likely to trigger the rare blood-clotting complication, the data suggested. 

In contrast, the virus itself was eight times more likely to lead to thromboembolism than either jab."

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UK regulators saw 411 instances of vaccine-induced immune thrombocytopenia and thrombosis after AstraZeneca's jab up to July 28. 

A total of 43 cases occurred after a second dose.

At that time, 24.8million Britons had received their first AstraZeneca jab and 23.6m had already been fully-vaccinated.

27 minutes ago, TheTeapot said:

Very.

 

Edited August 26, 2021 by swoopy2110

[quilp]

Mrs Q, 41, had a brain aneurysm re-coiled last April. Operation went well, and considered a success by her consultant at Walton. She'd had her 2nd AZ jab 10 days prior to the op, experiencing a severe reaction to it 1st time around. After being home 4 days without warning she had 4 or 5 TIA's and a major stroke at Noble's sometime later. As the days passed and following a couple of MRA's performed locally, Walton concluded that the strokes would appear to have nothing to do with procedure they'd performed, the coils and stents fitted were well embedded and suggested that there was a possibility that she was "one of the unlucky ones" and the clot which caused the ischaemia may have been vaccine-related CVST. The team at Noble's rejected this theory, concluding that CVST's can be difficult to diagnose. I have to say that the treatment she received at Noble's was second-to-none, the team know their stuff and work hard. It was suspected she wouldn't survive at one point but thankfully, being young, fit and very determined, with the care provided both as an in and out-patient she is making an excellent recovery and is now able to WFH.

Walton won't rule out the possibility it was vaccine-related, a neuro nurse-specialist we spoke to added that they've treated a few previously healthy patients, who apparently have been affected in the same way, but adding that it was hard to confirm the cause.

She has no regrets about having the vaccine. Accepting she may've just been one of the unlucky ones.

[Itsmeee]

Goodness me, what a horrible time you must all have been having. I sincerely hope Mrs Q makes a good recovery. 

[Annoymouse]

17 hours ago, quilp said:

Walton concluded that the strokes would appear to have nothing to do with procedure they'd performed, the coils and stents fitted were well embedded and suggested that there was a possibility that she was "one of the unlucky ones" and the clot which caused the ischaemia may have been vaccine-related CVST. The team at Noble's rejected this theory, concluding that CVST's can be difficult to diagnose.

Sorry to hear Mrs Q has been suffering, but I find a specialist hospital saying one thing and Noble’s saying another quite concerning, why would they flat out deny it’s a possibility?

 

[WTF]

something else to poo poo

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9930855/Natural-immunity-Covid-infection-stronger-vaccination-Israeli-study-suggests.html

[quilp]

1 hour ago, Annoymouse said:

Sorry to hear Mrs Q has been suffering, but I find a specialist hospital saying one thing and Noble’s saying another quite concerning, why would they flat out deny it’s a possibility?

Both parties were of the opinion that pinning it down to the stroke being a vaccine side-effect (CVST) was difficult to determine. Walton said they had seen other patients where it was very likely that they were just some of the "unlucky" ones whose strokes, in their opinion, were apparently directly related to the vaccination and suggested it was a possibility in her case. How they can tell I don't know but at the end of the day she'd had stroke and presumably treating it would be no different regardless of the cause. Why it happened being immaterial at that time, no point in pursuing it. There was also a difference of opinon over the meds prescribed; Walton queried why she'd been put on a particular drug, not that it was wrong just whether it was necessary, and why she wasn't being given the pain-relief here as prescribed to her over there. She had been in severe pain for days and over there given Oramorph as a palliative but for some reason Nobles decided against it and just stopped giving it to her, prescribing cocodamol instead. Apart from possible withdrawal symptoms from immediate cessation of the Oramorph, her pain levels shot up, becoming almost unbearable. But it was sorted quickly. The nurse-specialist at Walton advised me to request that the doc at Noble's call her, which he did very promptly, and that was that. Clear and swift communication between both hospitals and myself greatly helped.

I said it my earlier post, the stroke team at Noble’s were, and still are, providing excellent care, beginning with saving her life to the phone calls now to ask how we're getting on and if they can help in anyway.

For what it's worth, whether the stroke was a product of the vaccine or not has become an irrelevancy. 

[Andy Onchan]

21 hours ago, WTF said:

how safe ?

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9928939/BBC-presenter-Lisa-Shaw-died-complications-caused-AstraZeneca-covid-jab-coroner-rules.html

This safe = 0.000834%

[WTF]

48 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said:

This safe = 0.000834%

that's not very safe at all , they should be aiming for 100% safe  not less than 1%