quilp Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 16 hours ago, Manny Goldstein said: This adds to my worries. My bags are packed for a quick escape when the awakening goes ballistic. Don't forget to switch off the enlightenment when you leave... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatnonsence Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 UK to role out booster jabs for 50 and over Will our government follow suit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Whatnonsence said: UK to role out booster jabs for 50 and over Will our government follow suit? Yes, they are. And 12-15 yr olds. Both are unnecessary, some older and more vulnerable people would probably benefit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny Goldstein Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 10 hours ago, TheTeapot said: Yes, they are. And 12-15 yr olds. Both are unnecessary, some older and more vulnerable people would probably benefit. Excellent! Vax everyone as many times as it takes to reach our targets. Continue vaxxing them when they are dead. It's for a good cause. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatnonsence Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 14 hours ago, TheTeapot said: Yes, they are. And 12-15 yr olds. Both are unnecessary, some older and more vulnerable people would probably benefit. When did our government announce this was going to take place Teapot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatnonsence Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Whatnonsence said: When did our government announce this was going to take place Teapot? Just seen the news about the third jab role out thanks Teapot in advance😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Whatnonsence said: When did our government announce this was going to take place Teapot? Dunno, sometime over the last week Edit - kids https://twitter.com/IOMGovernment/status/1438533114888921096 Older people https://twitter.com/IOMGovernment/status/1438438937161240580 Edited September 17, 2021 by TheTeapot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 This is something we should all pay serious attention to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 22 hours ago, wrighty said: Been invited for my booster shot. Does this mean that the government have realised the initial chips aren't working as well as they wanted, or do they want to just finish me off sooner than the already scheduled 3 years? 22 hours ago, TheTeapot said: It's highly unlikely that you need one Moved these quotes from the 'flat earth' vaccine thread to this one. Personally, I'm unsure if I should get a booster shot. On the pro side - my jabs were 3 weeks apart almost 9 months ago. The 3 week dosing schedule probably wasn't as good as the UK gamble on 12 week intervals, being jabbed at the earliest opportunity my immunity will have waned as much as anyone's, on average. However, real world data suggests I'm still protected against serious illness (although a mate of mine was pretty sick with it despite being vaxxed), I'm not personally vulnerable, I'm a bit disappointed the vaccine is unchanged - should have been tweaked to Delta mRNA in my view - and there are others in the world who would clearly benefit more than me by getting their first jab. Me not having mine though doesn't ensure that. I'll probably have it. Risk is low, and if governments suddenly introduce rules on vaccine recency and I can't travel because mine's out of date I'll be annoyed. It's certainly not as clear cut a decision as it was first time though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of the blue Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, wrighty said: Moved these quotes from the 'flat earth' vaccine thread to this one. Personally, I'm unsure if I should get a booster shot. On the pro side - my jabs were 3 weeks apart almost 9 months ago. The 3 week dosing schedule probably wasn't as good as the UK gamble on 12 week intervals, being jabbed at the earliest opportunity my immunity will have waned as much as anyone's, on average. However, real world data suggests I'm still protected against serious illness (although a mate of mine was pretty sick with it despite being vaxxed), I'm not personally vulnerable, I'm a bit disappointed the vaccine is unchanged - should have been tweaked to Delta mRNA in my view - and there are others in the world who would clearly benefit more than me by getting their first jab. Me not having mine though doesn't ensure that. I'll probably have it. Risk is low, and if governments suddenly introduce rules on vaccine recency and I can't travel because mine's out of date I'll be annoyed. It's certainly not as clear cut a decision as it was first time though. I will have my booster, mainly due to pragmatism as I anticipate future travel restrictions. I personally wish they would use them in less fortunate countries instead though. The issue that my wife and I are really unsure about and are debating is whether to vaccinate our now eligible child. He recently had Covid (no issues and asymptomatic), but in normal times we travel a lot. Plenty of thoughts going on regarding unnecessary vaccination due to minimal risk, dose better used elsewhere, already immune due to Covid, travel restrictions etc. I imagine this will be a difficult discussion going on in a lot of households at the moment. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, wrighty said: ... being jabbed at the earliest opportunity my immunity will have waned as much as anyone's, on average. The drop-off in immunity is still a grey area though, is it not? We have a virus that is asymptomatic and mild in some and yet deadly to others. There has to be a genetic disposition to this virus in humans, in terms of fatal outcomes and resistance. During the first outbreaks we saw the BAME communities suffering the worst effects, is this still a thing? Edited September 17, 2021 by quilp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danoo Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Whatnonsence said: When did our government announce this was going to take place Teapot? I don't think our government have announced it have they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 19 minutes ago, Danoo said: I don't think our government have announced it have they? 4 hours ago, TheTeapot said: Dunno, sometime over the last week Edit - kids https://twitter.com/IOMGovernment/status/1438533114888921096 Older people https://twitter.com/IOMGovernment/status/1438438937161240580 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danoo Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: Thanks. Couldn't we at least just hold off and see how things go across first? Are we independant or aren't we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, quilp said: The drop-off in immunity is still a grey area though, is it not? We have a virus that is asymptomatic and mild in some and yet deadly to others. There has to be a genetic disposition to this virus in humans, in terms of fatal outcomes and resistance. During the first outbreaks we saw the BAME communities suffering the worst effects, is this still a thing? The BAME thing was always about things relating to social class - where you live and what job you do. If you think about it, the only way that it could be true would be if 'White' (ie non-BAME) people had some favourable genetic adaptation that meant they were less susceptible. There's too much genetic diversity across the various BAME populations for one thing to make them more so. At an individual level, it doesn't necessarily have to be a genetic thing that makes some people suffer worse or even fatally from Covid. Some things are just chance in the way an individual's body works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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