Bankfern Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 England aims to have all over 70s by mid February, a challenging target . Why cannot we have such a challenging target? Our targets are pathetic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, Bankfern said: England aims to have all over 70s by mid February, a challenging target . Why cannot we have such a challenging target? Our targets are pathetic Challenging targets are things like waterslides and Promenades ! We can't possibly balls up a vaccine roll out in the middle of a worldwide pandemic can we ? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bankfern said: England aims to have all over 70s by mid February, a challenging target . Why cannot we have such a challenging target? Our targets are pathetic Our targets are ok. If you read my earlier post, he cannot comment or commit to the AZ vaccine until the indemnity is sorted. Once it is, the vaccine will be rolled out to card homes As for the Pfizer one, 1000 per week for 3 weeks, then 2000 a week due to people starting to get second injection. They can only be administered at the hospital due to logistical issues. By that time, it is hoped that the AZ vaccine roll out has started. So in a few weeks time, we should be looking at 3400-3500 a week, or more (half first jab, half second) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 34 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Impressive? It's pathetic. We are 2 weeks behind and that equates to 2000 shots. We should be in a situation where we are waiting for vaccine and shouting for more not sitting with it in a fridge. We get a pro rata amount from the UK so unless we have done the same % of our population we have failed How much are the IOM paying for the vaccine? If we’ve got the opportunity to buy more but are choosing not to then that is a different situation entirely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 29 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: Presumably they can only inject what they're given. The real problem is that they have been so slow starting and then prioritised the people who were easiest to inject (DHSC staff) rather than those who needed it most (the very elderly). They want to get the schoolkids back in so why aren't teachers a priority? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted January 7, 2021 Author Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, quilp said: They want to get the schoolkids back in so why aren't teachers a priority? Because education is not a priority here, the teachers aren’t on Ashies list and he won’t change it ! Could have done 1141 teachers from one of the 5 trays we have in freezer over weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Rushen Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 24 minutes ago, Annoymouse said: How much are the IOM paying for the vaccine? If we’ve got the opportunity to buy more but are choosing not to then that is a different situation entirely. The vaccine is issued according to your population you cannot jump the queue and buy more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 27 minutes ago, Annoymouse said: How much are the IOM paying for the vaccine? Didn't Ashford state that the vaccine was buckshee..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted January 7, 2021 Author Share Posted January 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, quilp said: Didn't Ashford state that the vaccine was buckshee..? Free for the Pfizer one , hasn’t said about Oxford one which we now have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 10 minutes ago, Major Rushen said: The vaccine is issued according to your population you cannot jump the queue and buy more. Well that was my understanding, but I can only assume people who want vaccinations any quicker think they have more control over it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 I still think that 100 jabs per day per vaccinator is a realistic target. DA said they have all the staff they need. Delays for protection vulnerable people are unacceptable. Are our MHKs not fulfilling this prime objective - protecting their constituents? Tynwald should be recalled now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 13 minutes ago, Apple said: I still think that 100 jabs per day per vaccinator is a realistic target. DA said they have all the staff they need. Delays for protection vulnerable people are unacceptable. Are our MHKs not fulfilling this prime objective - protecting their constituents? Tynwald should be recalled now. Some good points. They should not be putting everyone else on hold because they cannot vaccinate the vulnerable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanxpilot Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) Each Pfizer tray has 195 vials, each vial has an advertised 5 doses available post dilution, allowing for an expected 975 vaccinations. Rather than the expected 975 vaccinations, 1141 have been completed. This seems to indicate one of two things: a) They have managed to extract 6 doses out of most vials, but not 29 of them. b) They got 6 doses out of all vials and could not find arms to inject it into as they weren't expecting the extra capacity - 29 doses went unused. Be it a or b, stating that the target is 1141 each week for a tray is difficult to rationalise. Edited January 7, 2021 by madmanxpilot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 I thought the most important thing Ashford said was that their overall plan is to get all over 50’s done, plus presumably younger, vulnerable people, by the end of May. If their plan is credible, this sounds reasonable to me. However, on current performance, which has generated a lot of public annoyance, I think that for everyone to buy this, we need to see a week by week schedule, and week by week actual performance. Without this, no-one will believe that Tim Baker and Nick Black haven’t simply made up the timeline. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 They probably threw the first few bits of left ove vaccine away until they realised they could get six doses out of each Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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