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Vaccine- who will have it?


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12 minutes ago, asitis said:

The aged will probably have died of old age by the time the vaccine gets to them in any case !

Hospital, care home workers, Care Home and Residential Home residents due to be completed 1st dose by end January, 2nd dose by 3rd week February. 80’s+ all finished by end February. 70s+ dose 1 by mid March. 

The UK figures for where they’ll get to are misleading because their figures to end March are single dose. Different race. Not comparable.

This evenings panorama on BBC made it clear that there are serious vaccine supply chain issues.

Prediction. By Panorama. UK loosening of restrictions not until end April and earliest for most to have gone is end September, but more likely end 2021.

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7 minutes ago, piebaps said:

You missed a bit "Subject to supplies from the UK, Guernsey is expecting to receive" :D

Yes but they started 3 weeks before us and are already rolling out Oxford vaccine and our plans are also subject to supplies which you forgot 😀

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1 hour ago, Happier diner said:

Despite them saying on FRiday that they would

They did say they want enough to give  the second jab within 21 days, I believe they’re planning to give the same vaccine as the 1st jab as there was talk of the UK doing some sort of hybrid 1st Pfizer and 2nd Oxford which was quickly shut down by both companies, so now the UK is rapidly vaccinating people with the 1st and are unlikely to deliver the 2nd within the 21 days recommend.

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4 minutes ago, Annoymouse said:

They did say they want enough to give  the second jab within 21 days, I believe they’re planning to give the same vaccine as the 1st jab as there was talk of the UK doing some sort of hybrid 1st Pfizer and 2nd Oxford which was quickly shut down by both companies, so now the UK is rapidly vaccinating people with the 1st and are unlikely to deliver the 2nd within the 21 days recommend.

That's very true. However what we are doing (it seems) is saving everyone's second jab, effectively reserving it in the freezer. This is based upon the fear that supplies will dry up and we won't be able to apply the second jab in 3 weeks time. IMO this is over cautious in the extreme and that caution is absolutely misplaced and a danger. This is because

1) The first jab gives 70%-90% protection

2) Why would the supplies dry up. Even if they did its not an issue as it won't dry up for ever and, even if it did, the first jab has given some good protection.

3) This process is slowing down the whole point of vaccination. If we continue then we are vaccinating 1000 a week to a high standard but leaving 1000 who could have started their protection. I hope to god I am wrong but now its here on Island, some poor devil could be very ill (or worse) just because of this strange approach.

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We won’t be short of having 1 vaccine in stock, but we might well have a shortage of the correct vaccine for a second dose, Pfizer seems to be falling out of favour due to its storage requirements and I wouldn’t be surprised if it got dropped entirely, given there are now two other vaccines that are both easier to store and distribute.
Being a new vaccine there is also a lot of assumptions, they think it gives 70%-90% but they aren’t sure how long that protection actually lasts for.

When questioned about delivering the vaccine Ashford and co said they planned to deliver the vaccine exactly as it was trialed, we think at the moment that the UK have a lead on us but it could be in 6 months they all need the vaccine again.

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