the mo beats experience Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 QUOTEyou are obviously in the tiny, tiny minority though you must agree? Absolute rubbish. Any night/weekend there are many more people at home behaving themselves than there are in the pubs and clubs drinking or taking drugs. not the point, point is he doesn't do ANY stimulants, whether in the pub, in the club, at home, at his grans, wherever, if you're going to comment please read the thread thouroughly before you do so i don't have to explain myself again, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnie Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 your views, however well meaning, will not do any good, you have no idea about the subject, and will not be able to put forward any sort of sensible advice. your "all drugs are bad" point of view will be more likely to push your kids into the lure of a drug dealer than if you could put across a valid argument with valid advice. i worry for the safety of your kids mate. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What more valid advice can you give your children than "all drugs are bad"???? What do you deem as sensible advice when educating children in the dangers of drug taking????? I'd worry more for the safety of a child whose parents don't see the harm in people taking ecstasy for their kicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posters Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 QUOTEyou are obviously in the tiny, tiny minority though you must agree? Absolute rubbish. Any night/weekend there are many more people at home behaving themselves than there are in the pubs and clubs drinking or taking drugs. not the point, point is he doesn't do ANY stimulants, whether in the pub, in the club, at home, at his grans, wherever, if you're going to comment please read the thread thouroughly before you do so i don't have to explain myself again, thanks. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It is the point. I suspect the vast majority of the population use little or no form of stimulants. My post was only brief, but you still missed the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 What more valid advice can you give your children than "all drugs are bad"???? What do you deem as sensible advice when educating children in the dangers of drug taking????? I'd worry more for the safety of a child whose parents don't see the harm in people taking ecstasy for their kicks. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I know exactly what he means and my kids already ask about drugs - the different kinds, their effects etc etc. Personally, I would rather be able to inform them and have them feel I have informed them properly than have them think I am closed minded and totally out of touch, therefore sending them running for advice from their peers who may be only to happy to educate them in a way I would rather did not happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 not the point, point is he doesn't do ANY stimulants, whether in the pub, in the club, at home, at his grans, wherever, if you're going to comment please read the thread thouroughly before you do so i don't have to explain myself again, thanks. I think it's you who needs to re-read the thread sunshine. I said I don't take any now. I didn't said I had no experience of them. Only thing is, I'm not daft enough to boast about it on a public forum. you have no idea about the subject On the contrary. I've made a conscious and very informed decision. Now please read the thread thoroughly so I don't have to explain myself again, thanks. I'm more concerned for your daughter than mine. There are no two ways to dress up illegal drugs. Not only are there health consequences, but social ones should you obtain a record through possession. If you're too stupid or naive to understand that, then you're not fit to be a parent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the mo beats experience Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 ok, then think of how children act, c'mon you're not stupid people are you, they do exactly the opposite to what you tell them to do, prohibition has never worked, no matter what the circumstances no matter what the substance. think about it, your children are going to be in serious danger with your stupid, ignorant, views forced upon them, views which have no relevance in todays society. i'm with you on the save our kids thing, but you are way off the mark on how to go about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 Ans has not said how he would go about it though - and he has said that he has direct experience. You do not know in what way he communicates/intends to communicate those issues to his children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 k, then think of how children act, c'mon you're not stupid people are you, they do exactly the opposite to what you tell them to do KIDS GO TAKE DRUGS AND KILL YASELF IN YOUR OWN VOMIT!!!!!!!!!! There won't be anymore drug taking at all now. hmmmm I don't think it's that easy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnie Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 think about it, your children are going to be in serious danger with your stupid, ignorant, views forced upon them, views which have no relevance in todays society. i'm with you on the save our kids thing, but you are way off the mark on how to go about it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So you're saying our children are in serious danger because we're telling them that drug taking is a bad thing to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the mo beats experience Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 ans, i said doesnt do, not never has. and when have i boasted about anything, i haven't said anything about what i do/have done, c'mon, get a grip, don't try and make me look a fool. it is you that needs to re-read the thread sir. a very informed decision? don't make me laugh. what do you think i'm going to do, let my daughter take drugs? no way, but if i had no choice like you wouldn't, i'd at least make it so she could speak to me about it, which yours won't, they'll be down some back ally with a needle in their arm. don't try and make me out to be a dickhead please, my child won't be scared to speak to me about it. yours will. bill, if you think the vast majority don't even have the smallest sip of wine, sorry mate, not havin that. observer, you're on the right track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCMR Posted July 29, 2004 Author Share Posted July 29, 2004 If E was safe to take why would Governments make it illegal. Yes more education is needed and how about starting with the courts dishing out stiffer prison time and larger fines to those people whos face is always in the media. How many times do we see in the press, Mick Spicker of the Roling Rocks gets £200 fine for being caught taking drugs, it should be £2 million fine and ten years in prison, would kids find that cool, Its about time the courts hammered these famous people who seem to promote the use of drugs. People that report drug dealers should be rewarded by the courts the value of the drugs the dealer had. and for those who use drugs and are reported the fine should go to the person that reported the user. I spent my youth out on the town during the mid seventies on the Island and we never had a drug problem then so why have we got it now. And if ever I found out my kids were on drugs, I would report them and if I found out who supplied them I would bury him/her, the courts would not get a look in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripsaw Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 c'mon you're not stupid people are you, they do exactly the opposite to what you tell them to do With all due respect, that comment is one of the biggest cop outs to ever eminate from anyones lips. Usually (although not exclusively) from parents of teenage trouble makers. It should be locked away with that other famous misgiving "Kids will be kids, what can you do?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the mo beats experience Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 So you're saying our children are in serious danger because we're telling them that drug taking is a bad thing to do? did i say that? the extreme views you are expressing here would do more harm than good is what i mean, i don't know how you'd speak to your kids, but if its like this thread has been then yes, i think its the wrong way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the mo beats experience Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 With all due respect, that comment is one of the biggest cop outs to ever eminate from anyones lips. Usually (although not exclusively) from parents of teenage trouble makers. are you getting the point, or are you just wanting to antagonise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCMR Posted July 29, 2004 Author Share Posted July 29, 2004 Lets not forget the Island lost three kids in one go through drugs, two murdered and one spending the rest of his lif in jail. And these kids were in the control of the specialists, what eduction did they get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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