0bserver Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 37 minutes ago, Amadeus said: Is it just me or are there more scaffolds around the course now, and many seem to be in questionable positions. For example, verandah and greeba castle - what's the point of having airbags when you're going to get impaled by the scaffold if you bounce above it? Just seems odd to see so many on the outsides of corners and in the firing line. Never noticed this before. "They know the risks / They died doing what they loved" - TT Apologists 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 49 minutes ago, Youaintseenme said: None of those structures look to be anywhere near where a bike would end up in a normal incident. Mechanical failures etc might be different, but they all look very low risk to me It won’t be low risk if there is an accident. Anything is possible, after all, who would have thought that a course car could be involved in an accident. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, 2112 said: It won’t be low risk if there is an accident. Anything is possible, after all, who would have thought that a course car could be involved in an accident. Going against the way the bikes were traveling!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Amadeus said: Is it just me or are there more scaffolds around the course now, and many seem to be in questionable positions. For example, verandah and greeba castle - what's the point of having airbags when you're going to get impaled by the scaffold if you bounce above it? Just seems odd to see so many on the outsides of corners and in the firing line. Never noticed this before. But just think how dramatic the pictures will be when the camera get covered in blood and guts! Presumably all this is to feed the live coverage on the new TT+ channel, which is going to turn the DfE into the new Netflix. Though probably only in terms of the amount of money it loses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Amadeus said: Is it just me or are there more scaffolds around the course now, and many seem to be in questionable positions. For example, verandah and greeba castle - what's the point of having airbags when you're going to get impaled by the scaffold if you bounce above it? Just seems odd to see so many on the outsides of corners and in the firing line. Never noticed this before. I’m surprised you haven’t mentioned the kerbs, some look like they haven’t been painted for 5+ years. There is more street furniture all over the course this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Banker said: Going against the way the bikes were traveling!! Wasn’t exactly predicted was it? You can do all the risk assessments in the world, but who would have thought that could happen? It only takes one accident or screw up. Edited May 4, 2022 by 2112 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Johnson Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 26 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: But just think how dramatic the pictures will be when the camera get covered in blood and guts! Presumably all this is to feed the live coverage on the new TT+ channel, which is going to turn the DfE into the new Netflix. Though probably only in terms of the amount of money it loses. Dear god, have you seen how many presenters and "analysts" there are for the free Radio TT alone? Which MHKs stood on a platform of throwing tens of millions at this death fest? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlebushy Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Amadeus said: Is it just me or are there more scaffolds around the course now, and many seem to be in questionable positions. For example, verandah and greeba castle - what's the point of having airbags when you're going to get impaled by the scaffold if you bounce above it? Just seems odd to see so many on the outsides of corners and in the firing line. Never noticed this before. Fortunately, they have had the foresight to use red so you won't see the blood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Amadeus said: Is it just me or are there more scaffolds around the course now, and many seem to be in questionable positions. For example, verandah and greeba castle - what's the point of having airbags when you're going to get impaled by the scaffold if you bounce above it? Just seems odd to see so many on the outsides of corners and in the firing line. Never noticed this before. Most of those that you've posted appear to be flag-marshal's positions, elevated to give line-of-sight to the next, rather than spectator positions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Youaintseenme said: None of those structures look to be anywhere near where a bike would end up in a normal incident. Mechanical failures etc might be different, but they all look very low risk to me At least one is where a bike went off before. Connor would have been shish kebab had that been there. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 As long as no Marshalls get tempted to run across the road when a bike is approaching at speed it should be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Youaintseenme said: There has never been live TV coverage and so many camera angles before. I am sure they will have been risk assessed. I’m sure they have been, just like the camera positions we had with North One years ago were officially signed off and many of them were dicey to say the least. Outside of the corner at Milntown, right in firing line at parliament square, and so on. Don’t get me wrong, I love the TT but past incidents have shown that it’s always worth questioning what is being done by organisers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Ship Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Non-Believer said: Most of those that you've posted appear to be flag-marshal's positions, elevated to give line-of-sight to the next, rather than spectator positions? That was my first impression too. And positioned towards the outside of bends to give clearer sightlines. But they might also be for tv camera positions as well. And what is the current position regarding the number of marshals available? Nobody seems to have posted on this recently. Is everybody sworn to secrecy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Johnson Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Ghost Ship said: That was my first impression too. And positioned towards the outside of bends to give clearer sightlines. But they might also be for tv camera positions as well. And what is the current position regarding the number of marshals available? Nobody seems to have posted on this recently. Is everybody sworn to secrecy? But the TT is safe, well, safer than it ever has been according to the Safety Management System (SMS) 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 Yeah right, and my uncle is my fanny's aunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paswt Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 4 hours ago, Youaintseenme said: You can reduce risk, with a risk assessment. Not eliminate it. Well whoever did the risk assessment here (Casey's) must have been aware that there have been 5 "offs" here including 2 'fatals' . Previously there was a rock strewn gulley ( initial point of impact of the 2 fatalities )adjacent to the raised curb which has been now filled in with granite and the bank cut back. I have ventured to suggest on a number of occasions to the powers that be that air fencing would minimise the risk to riders without success and as a result take the view that to continue to marshals to be complicit in failing to consider rider safety. Just saying 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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