WTF Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: Hope they've got all the lines painted, might struggle now. They were doing Billown this week, dunno if they finished More photos on the Mann Crane fb page so is that what cancelled the rally stage ?? un fucking believable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 That looks like one of the specialised wagons they use for setting down and picking up the traffic cones on the Mountain Rd when the one-way system is in operation too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 9 hours ago, Youaintseenme said: If you think there is one right in the firing line then I would respectfully suggest that you don’t have a clue what you are talking about! Where is the supposed additional hazard so I can go and have a look? Is it similar to the one Amadeus was complains about that is nowhere near the firing line and which has been there exactly as it is now for previous TTs on the veranda? The riders can just slow down a little bit to avoid them. Not rocket science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Ouch...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysteron Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Amadeus said: The only 'facts' I know of the above incident are what I've read on various forums, so I have no idea if the above statement is true. However, if it is true, then it is in accordance with long held and established Isle of Man authority management mantras - that responsibility never travels upwards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Amadeus said: I'm hearing there's plenty more where this came from! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 6 hours ago, 0bserver said: I'm hearing there's plenty more where this came from! There's one on the side of the flag man's hut at Cronk ny Mona too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 14 hours ago, Amadeus said: Did I see you at the Bungalow at about 7pm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 14 hours ago, Amadeus said: Who's the uninformed person behind that little campaign I wonder? I have a good idea, and he's losing my sympathy for his situation rapidly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 36 minutes ago, Max Power said: Who's the uninformed person behind that little campaign I wonder? I have a good idea, and he's losing my sympathy for his situation rapidly! Can you just confirm if this is the Mercer incident where... Mercer was critically injured when an official course car slammed into him as he made his way back to the Grandstand against the racing direction of the TT course, after being instructed to do so by a marshal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paswt Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 8 hours ago, 0bserver said: Can you just confirm if this is the Mercer incident where... Mercer was critically injured when an official course car slammed into him as he made his way back to the Grandstand against the racing direction of the TT course, after being instructed to do so by a marshal. It is "Claimed" that the rider was instructed by a marshal . The official car , with 2 policemen on board were apparently going to the scene of an incident where only one rider had been involved ( and therefore had no reason to attend, "rubbernecking"?)). Did race control approve the course car being on the course and were all marshals advised? All riders were instructed at the 'riders briefing' that in the event of a red flag they would be escorted back to the grandstand following a Travelling Marshal, at reduced speed under "waved yellow flags" at all marshalling points. It was common knowledge ( via Race Control and Manx radio , if memory serves) that the riders would be returning to the grandstand against the course flow , but everyone knew ( or should have known) being led by a TM under waved yellows. I have known a rider to ignore a marshals instructions ( mine) after confirming that he had retired then subsequently firing up his bike and rejoining the course with cold tyres. I have also witnessed Mark Miller pull off the course onto the grass verge ( at Black Hut )and then , thought it acceptable to push the bike back onto the course against the flow of the course (while practice continued) and park it on the course against the wall . Riders have demonstrably been known to "go off on a frolic of their own" ..... Just saying Nothing has been confirmed to my knowledge so it's " ALL IFFS AND ANDS ". Previously after an incident a marshal was blamed ,arrested and initially charged with manslaughter until it was established that they were in no way responsible and the case was dropped. ....... In relation to the "flyers" being posted around the course I would have thought that a statement from Mr Thompson confirming or rejecting the contents would have been an idea . Just saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 21 minutes ago, paswt said: It is "Claimed" that the rider was instructed by a marshal . The official car , with 2 policemen on board were apparently going to the scene of an incident where only one rider had been involved ( and therefore had no reason to attend, "rubbernecking"?)). Did race control approve the course car being on the course and were all marshals advised? All riders were instructed at the 'riders briefing' that in the event of a red flag they would be escorted back to the grandstand following a Travelling Marshal, at reduced speed under "waved yellow flags" at all marshalling points. It was common knowledge ( via Race Control and Manx radio , if memory serves) that the riders would be returning to the grandstand against the course flow , but everyone knew ( or should have known) being led by a TM under waved yellows. I have known a rider to ignore a marshals instructions ( mine) after confirming that he had retired then subsequently firing up his bike and rejoining the course with cold tyres. I have also witnessed Mark Miller pull off the course onto the grass verge ( at Black Hut )and then , thought it acceptable to push the bike back onto the course against the flow of the course (while practice continued) and park it on the course against the wall . Riders have demonstrably been known to "go off on a frolic of their own" ..... Just saying Nothing has been confirmed to my knowledge so it's " ALL IFFS AND ANDS ". Previously after an incident a marshal was blamed ,arrested and initially charged with manslaughter until it was established that they were in no way responsible and the case was dropped. ....... In relation to the "flyers" being posted around the course I would have thought that a statement from Mr Thompson confirming or rejecting the contents would have been an idea . Just saying Thanks. I was going from this article https://www.newsletter.co.uk/sport/motorcycling/stricken-isle-man-tt-racer-steve-mercer-says-it-cant-end-986948 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManxTaxPayer Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 22 minutes ago, paswt said: it's " ALL IFFS AND ANDS ". Eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, paswt said: It is "Claimed" that the rider was instructed by a marshal . The official car , with 2 policemen on board were apparently going to the scene of an incident where only one rider had been involved ( and therefore had no reason to attend, "rubbernecking"?)). Did race control approve the course car being on the course and were all marshals advised? All riders were instructed at the 'riders briefing' that in the event of a red flag they would be escorted back to the grandstand following a Travelling Marshal, at reduced speed under "waved yellow flags" at all marshalling points. It was common knowledge ( via Race Control and Manx radio , if memory serves) that the riders would be returning to the grandstand against the course flow , but everyone knew ( or should have known) being led by a TM under waved yellows. I have known a rider to ignore a marshals instructions ( mine) after confirming that he had retired then subsequently firing up his bike and rejoining the course with cold tyres. I have also witnessed Mark Miller pull off the course onto the grass verge ( at Black Hut )and then , thought it acceptable to push the bike back onto the course against the flow of the course (while practice continued) and park it on the course against the wall . Riders have demonstrably been known to "go off on a frolic of their own" ..... Just saying Nothing has been confirmed to my knowledge so it's " ALL IFFS AND ANDS ". Previously after an incident a marshal was blamed ,arrested and initially charged with manslaughter until it was established that they were in no way responsible and the case was dropped. ....... In relation to the "flyers" being posted around the course I would have thought that a statement from Mr Thompson confirming or rejecting the contents would have been an idea . Just saying Lots of flaws in this, for the sake of those involved in 'the previous incident' and this, it's unfair to put up an argument. All I will say is that the police were not 'rubbernecking' and were instructed to attend for a very good reason. The car driver did nothing wrong. What would you have Gary Thompson say? Where have you heard him blame anyone for the incident? Thought so, and the author of the leaflets knows it. Edited May 15, 2022 by Max Power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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