CallMeCurious Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Max Power said: Unfortunately ahead of the technology available. Did they manage a full race distance even? When you see what F1 racing has done with the technology (with all of the money available) Hybrid energy with thermal efficiencies of 50% Re-cycling braking energy and exhaust heat to energy storage and boost drive output on demand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 2 hours ago, CallMeCurious said: Did they manage a full race distance even? When you see what F1 racing has done with the technology (with all of the money available) Hybrid energy with thermal efficiencies of 50% Re-cycling braking energy and exhaust heat to energy storage and boost drive output on demand One lap only, MotoE manages seven laps of a three mile track. Purely electric but it hasn't captured the imagination at GP level either, the sole manufacturer, Energica, has pulled out and will be replaced by Ducati. Throughout three seasons of racing there were only two headlines, a last corner lunge deciding the 2021 title, and the whole MotoE paddock burning down due to a faulty battery charger! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 20 minutes ago, Max Power said: One lap only, MotoE manages seven laps of a three mile track. Purely electric but it hasn't captured the imagination at GP level either, the sole manufacturer, Energica, has pulled out and will be replaced by Ducati. Throughout three seasons of racing there were only two headlines, a last corner lunge deciding the 2021 title, and the whole MotoE paddock burning down due to a faulty battery charger! Yeah I reckon it'll take electric cars to be fully mainstream, probably a while past 2030 before the technology will allow electric bikes to completely compete with ICE motorcycles. For a start, quite rightly, there's not the pressure on motorcycle manufacturers to go electric and no plans to ban the sale of new ICE bikes. Emissions from petrol bikes are far far less significant than cars, partly because there are many fewer of them, but mainly because they are comparatively very efficient and environmentally friendly anyway. Who's to say some other technology won't come along in the meantime and bikes will leapfrog the electric age? That's not to say they shouldn't still be included in the TT, moto GP etc. As you say they weren't particularly exciting and manufacturers weren't plentiful, but it was encouraging to see how many university teams used to get involved , and the TT XGP did carry on the island's pioneering history in motorcycle sport in existing well before its rivals. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Latest topic doing the rounds is were going to have a TT in 2022 but no visitors or spectators , just riders , the event will be televised on the Pay Channel and the government will make millions from all those willing to cough up money rather than soak up the atmosphere end enjoy the after races events and entertainment , how all this fits with the hoteliers ,accommodation providers , pubs and all those places that depend on the revenue generated ,to pay the bills ,not to mention the major loss of income to the steam packet and airlines , Someone in the pub allegedly in the know. having had a few drinks to many was spouting ,and the government were shortly to make an announcement Has anyone else heard anything ?, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immortalpuppet Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Absolute dogshit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Blonde Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 That's BS. It's either going to be on on. Or off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swoopy2110 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 14 minutes ago, Omobono said: Latest topic doing the rounds is were going to have a TT in 2022 but no visitors or spectators , just riders , the event will be televised on the Pay Channel and the government will make millions from all those willing to cough up money rather than soak up the atmosphere end enjoy the after races events and entertainment , how all this fits with the hoteliers ,accommodation providers , pubs and all those places that depend on the revenue generated ,to pay the bills ,not to mention the major loss of income to the steam packet and airlines , Someone in the pub allegedly in the know. having had a few drinks to many was spouting ,and the government were shortly to make an announcement Has anyone else heard anything ?, What are they going to do ? Do residency tests at the ports ? Get you to sing the Manx National Anthem to gauge your accent ? Have police sectioned at every single point of the course to stop people standing outside to watch ? Not going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 It's completely bonkers of course. But is it bonkers enough for the DfE to think it a good idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Well, there's only Skelly that's gone so the fantasy factory has only "dropped one cylinder".... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Omobono said: Latest topic doing the rounds is were going to have a TT in 2022 but no visitors or spectators , just riders , the event will be televised on the Pay Channel and the government will make millions from all those willing to cough up money rather than soak up the atmosphere end enjoy the after races events and entertainment , how all this fits with the hoteliers ,accommodation providers , pubs and all those places that depend on the revenue generated ,to pay the bills ,not to mention the major loss of income to the steam packet and airlines , Someone in the pub allegedly in the know. having had a few drinks to many was spouting ,and the government were shortly to make an announcement Has anyone else heard anything ?, The televised (or at least live streamed) bit might be true. The rest is total crap. It is going to be packed and going to be awesome. Ditching TT zero having been ahead of the game and just as it is starting to become mainstream was typical IOM backwardness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsmeee Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 3 hours ago, Omobono said: Latest topic doing the rounds is were going to have a TT in 2022 but no visitors or spectators , just riders , the event will be televised on the Pay Channel and the government will make millions from all those willing to cough up money rather than soak up the atmosphere end enjoy the after races events and entertainment , how all this fits with the hoteliers ,accommodation providers , pubs and all those places that depend on the revenue generated ,to pay the bills ,not to mention the major loss of income to the steam packet and airlines , Someone in the pub allegedly in the know. having had a few drinks to many was spouting ,and the government were shortly to make an announcement Has anyone else heard anything ?, Utter bollox. The entire raison d’etre of the TT is to generate income for the visitor economy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Ramseyboi said: The televised (or at least live streamed) bit might be true. The rest is total crap. It is going to be packed and going to be awesome. Ditching TT zero having been ahead of the game and just as it is starting to become mainstream was typical IOM backwardness. Ditching TTzero will not win IOMG any new friends or it’s standing within the international community. Having dick waved and told everyone that the IOMG was greener than green, and they will punish it’s citizens for climate change infringements, it’s ironic that IOMG ditched TT zero sending mixed messages. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTucker Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 5 hours ago, Omobono said: Has anyone else heard anything ? This bit makes me think you know more than you have said! Streaming sounds plausible, North West 200 first did it more than 10 years ago. Red Button and BBC Sport Streams etc. TT 2022 programme has already been announced with more changes to come in 23 as already announced to some dismay. The other road races on the island will see bigger changes to their organization structure and formats in the coming months. None of it welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Perhaps it is hoped that a fortuitous flare of Covid will occur so that no blame would be pointed in the direction of the people who should have made sure the roads were attended to, remember last August when the mountain was scheduled to close and then the work force were reassigned to the promenade, and that a score board was sorted. Well, we will know when we know, we are where we are, etc,etc. If I was ordering any kind of merchandise for the TT. I would concentrate on pictures of bikes and I would definitely not be putting a date on the items. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebean Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 I very much doubt whether the revenue generated by paid-for streaming would be sufficient to make the races economically viable. There is simply not enough value in niche sport broadcasting. I agree with the comment that talk about running the races as a spectator-free event is total bollocks, spoken by someone who knows more about drinking beer than motorcycle racing. I don’t see any serious impediment to running the event as normal in 2022 - most things are possible, if you want them to be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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