Two-lane Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 The statement is: "A partnership with Isle of Man based Pozitive Group - who have committed to funding a carbon offsetting programme - will see that efforts are made to 'counterbalance' the total emissions created by the festival including international visitor travel." Which says nothing concrete. So how much was spent on carbon credits, and what was the brokerage fee? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 any sign of the scoreboard yet ??? is it callister with with a blackboard and chalk ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Ship Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 25 minutes ago, Two-lane said: The statement is: "A partnership with Isle of Man based Pozitive Group - who have committed to funding a carbon offsetting programme - will see that efforts are made to 'counterbalance' the total emissions created by the festival including international visitor travel." Which says nothing concrete. So how much was spent on carbon credits, and what was the brokerage fee? I wonder what "will see that efforts are made" actually means? How hard will they try? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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quilp Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 28 minutes ago, Two-lane said: The statement is: "A partnership with Isle of Man based Pozitive Group - who have committed to funding a carbon offsetting programme - will see that efforts are made to 'counterbalance' the total emissions created by the festival including international visitor travel." Which says nothing concrete. So how much was spent on carbon credits, and what was the brokerage fee? Exactly. A comment from iomtoady. Is this the same 'Pozitive' group? 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Login Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 On 5/22/2022 at 12:43 PM, Amadeus said: What is it with you lot and the constant negativity? Tourists could be handing out twenty quid notes and the likes of you would complain “meh I want a 50.” Seriously. That group has been coming here for 40 YEARS without fail. Even in 2001 he came. Only corona prevented them the last two years. Sometimes up to ten of them and usually only with their bikes, so limited space to bring stuff. Loads of money spent by them on the island. People stop by there to chat and have a drink and at the end they clean it all up again. Gruseleck is the type of thing no overpaid TT marketing bod could ever come up with even if he tried. This year only Klaus is here from the original group and he came by car instead of bike due to health issues. Anyone who stops by there is greeted by a warm smile and offered a drink or food. The back story, the kindness and hospitality, and the genuine fucking love these people have for the island is priceless and all you lot can do is complain. Makes me sad and angry. I completely disagree. There are loads of people who come back every year who love the Island but rather than freeload and expect to camp and use facilities for nothing they put their hands in their pockets and pay to camp and use the toilet and washing facilities etc provided. Are you going to go around the camp sites to see if there are similar regular visitors and do pieces about them as to my mind they are far more deserving of recognition as they are supporting the organisation who is putting in the time and effort to provide them somewhere to camp and provide facilities etc? Obviously if these guys are paying a nightly fee to camp there then that is different. Since you are promoting this presumably you are in favour of people being able to camp and build camp fires wherever they want on public land, at any time of the year? It would be slightly hypocritical for a politician to suggest it is only fine for German bikers to do this at TT but not say a bunch of university students in say Nobles park or even in the same place over the summer. A grumpy old git. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 The information comes from the TT website I think: DRIVING SUSTAINABILITY “To be environmentally sympathetic, drive sustainable solutions and reduce our carbon footprint.” That’s the mission of the Isle of Man TT Races fuelled by Monster Energy. After nearly 3 years, this time next week fans from around the world will be arriving for the return of the ‘‘world’s greatest motorsporting event’ and they’ll be able to do so with the sound knowledge that we’ll be offsetting the carbon footprint of their journey. GOING NEUTRAL The introduction of a carbon offsetting programme means that this year’s TT will be the first ever event to be completely carbon neutral. We will be working in partnership with Pozitive Group, a leading independent, technology-led supplier of electricity and gas, who have committed to funding the carbon offsetting programme that will cover the total emissions created by the TT including international visitor travel. We’ll be using internationally based programmes that will improve communities, sustain wildlife as well as the environments in which they inhabit. Speaking of the partnership, Jaime Amoedo, Chief Financial Officer, Pozitive Group explains, “we’re delighted to be working in partnership with the Department for Enterprise and helping the Isle of Man TT Races become Carbon Neutral. The TT is a deeply integrated part of the Isle of Man’s heritage and as a business based on the Island we’re passionate about working with the department to build a sustainable future for the event.” Presumably Manx Radio thinks the Pozitive Group is "Isle of Man based" because Amoedo is, but as stated it's actually based in Colchester, in so far as it seems to be anywhere. The website does rather give the impression of a group that claims to do a lot but with not much evidence of what it has done. Still lots of buzzwords, the DfE will like that. Incidentally the DfE website says JAIME AMOEDO, Digital Board Member [...] is currently Country Head of HSBC Isle of Man, though he actually left that role last October. Nothing ever gets maintained does it? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: Incidentally the DfE website says JAIME AMOEDO, Digital Board Member [...] is currently Country Head of HSBC Isle of Man, though he actually left that role last October. Nothing ever gets maintained does it? So the DoE has paid one of it's employees / board members (?) to whitewash its environment conscious? Edited May 23, 2022 by Declan 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, Declan said: So the DoE has paid one of it's employees / board members (?) to whitewash its environment conscious? Fill yer boots.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, Declan said: So the [DfE] has paid one of it's employees / board members (?) to whitewash its environment conscious? Well a company in a (rather nebulous) group of companies which happens to employ one of its Board members in some sort of role (as b4mbi hinted). All very cosy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Johnson Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 This really beggars belief, as far as I am concerned these "Carbon Offset" schemes are only to be used where the operation or process has no other option and is needed by the planet to survive. For example making medicine or say, scientific experiments that will be for the better good but to try out need to produce carbon. CARBON OFFSET SHOULD NEVER BE USED TO GREEN WASH A "SPORT" DEATH FEST ON AN ISLAND THAT HAS, SHOCKINGLY AND NEVER REALLY FULLY EXPLAINED WHY, BOISPHERE STATUS DESPITE BEING REALLY, REALLY NOT GREEN* *See soon to be introduced car tax rules that ignore emissions, see no grants to install heat pumps, see no testing of vehicle emissions, see no published data on air quality, see no incentives to use public transport (Other than poor roads), see no speed limits, see no plans for sustainable electric generation, which is really quite shocking for an island which is VERY WINDY and has HUGE tidal flows. You get the sad picture. Who in their right mind thought this was a good idea? It is not just insensitive it is a bloody piss take, yet again with our hard earned taxpayers money. We need an alternative government, not just new MHKs but an entire new system, this one is beyond fixing. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 3 hours ago, Passing Time said: Do you love looooonnnggg time too $5 ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 20 minutes ago, WTF said: $5 ? Any figures mentioned anywhere yet? I'm guessing around £500K based upon the current price for a carbon x 5000 tonnes + commission etc. Do you think there is anyone out there that would be influenced by this latest shambles? Are there really any bikers out there that would either come or not, based purely upon the 'green' factor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 4 hours ago, b4mbi said: Suppose that's how business works. Imagine I'm CEO of a payments company within a group that provides carbon offsetting and have access to head of DfE. I might suggest to the head of DfE that "wouldn't it be great to market TT as carbon neutral?" Head of DfE - "great, yes. We will immediately start a fully transparent procurement process so we get maximum taxpayer value for money" Or something... The article suggests that the company are funding it themselves? Or did I misread it? Even Jo Cox at Manx gas backtracked on their carbon offsetting nonsense. I expect an FOI into the contract award and cost will be submitted fairly quickly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 You can't greenwash the TT, its a celebration of the internal combustion engine ffs. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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