Banker Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, Bandits said: Think you’re right sadly. If you know fuck all stop speculating until official announcement ffs 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 13 minutes ago, philwebs said: QB to Bray Hill was resurfaced last year, from memory. Accident in the same spot, both sidecars Adverse camber? Coincidence? Just speculating. (Remove if out of order) One concerning snippet (to me) that came out of an interview with one of the drivers just before the race; the 600cc engines that the sidecars use are at their development ceiling - they can't get any more out of them. So crews are now lightening components of the outfits in order to gain a power/weight advantage. The rules governing the materials that can be used in F2 sidecars are fairly strict, so if lightening is taking place by not resorting to exotic, disallowed materials, that may be compromising strength. That may be fine for short circuit racing but the TT course imposes a completely different set of mechanical stresses, far in excess of any short circuit. One of the original reasons for banning the open class sidecars was lightness of construction deemed unsuitable for the TT course. We are going full circle. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, Banker said: If you know fuck all stop speculating until official announcement ffs Hear hear. In fact we should probably wait a few days after the announcement to be on the safe side. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Does anyone know where details of the salary of the so-called 'Clerk of the Course' are available? The position seems to lie within DfE in the so-called 'Motorsport Development Team'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mr. Sausages said: Hear hear. In fact we should probably wait a few days after the announcement to be on the safe side. Exactly so many angry clowns on here who seem to want all mention of anything banned. I believe there will be an announcement soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lethargy Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 He was taking the piss. The whole idea that you must not mention that anything bad has happened/potentially happened until an official statement has been released is utterly bizarre. I can understand not discussing identities etc in a public forum but otherwise why would you not talk about it? It's part of the racing, after all. 2 minutes ago, Bandits said: Exactly so many angry clowns on here who seem to want all mention of anything banned. I believe there will be an announcement soon. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoops Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bandits said: Exactly so many angry clowns on here who seem to want all mention of anything banned. I believe there will be an announcement soon. I think the point was, wait for the official announcement. What purpose is served by Gizo's post, bar trying to show that he is in the know? I hope he is wrong. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ďouglas Peel Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Newsdesk said: You would think they would have checked for that already. But agree it’s odd for two crashes at the exact same spot. The first one was rumoured to be due to mechanical failure though rather than road design. In 1978 , two major sidecar crashes on Bray Hill, Mac Hobson/ Kenny Birch .. they hit a drain cover that was too high and lost control, just after the garage.. i think the other pair (whos names i cant remember )were further down the road perhaps Quarter Bridge road?.. Edited June 10, 2022 by Ďouglas Peel Stupidity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 The Marshals Association has put out an appeal for marshals for tomorrow. This will be interesting as to whether there will be enough marshals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsdesk Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Ďouglas Peel said: In 1978 , two major sidecar crashes on Bray Hill, Mac Hobson/ Kenny Birch .. they hit a drain cover that was too high and lost control, just after the garage.. i think the other pair (whos names i cant remember )were further down the road? The crash the other day was catalysed by mechanical failure I believe. It wasn’t something like that. There are some good points made above by non believer in relation to potential weight saving measures which are particular to sidecars though. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, Hoops said: I think the point was, wait for the official announcement. What purpose is served by Gizo's post, bar trying to show that he is in the know? I hope he is wrong. There are people who have been spectating in that area. There are also people who have spoken to people who we’re spectating in that area. And there are people who know people who work in government or the emergency services who already know what is going on. You can’t assume that everyone on this forum or elsewhere knows ‘fuck all’. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 John Wright made it perfectly clear not to speculate about any race/red flag incidents, either the thread will be locked (again) or you’ll end up banned, so think before you post. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, Ďouglas Peel said: In 1978 , two major sidecar crashes on Bray Hill, Mac Hobson/ Kenny Birch .. they hit a drain cover that was too high and lost control, just after the garage.. i think the other pair (whos names i cant remember )were further down the road perhaps Quarter bridge road?.. Ernst Traschel, apparently a mechanical failure also. In the Mac Hobson incident, the hill had been dug up to lay a new drain and relayed with a huge jump off the end of High View Road. A white line had been painted in advance to warn riders, to no avail. 11 minutes ago, 2112 said: The Marshals Association has put out an appeal for marshals for tomorrow. This will be interesting as to whether there will be enough marshals. Yes, a lot are on the ferry home in the morning! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Helmut Fromage Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Bandits said: There are people who have been spectating in that area. There are also people who have spoken to people who we’re spectating in that area. And there are people who know people who work in government or the emergency services who already know what is going on. You can’t assume that everyone on this forum or elsewhere knows ‘fuck all’. Correct- I have checked in with a close friend who lives there as I did last week as his garden is often occupied for the races - thankfully all at his residence are fine however his comment of “worse than last week” is worrying. It is not knowing “fuck all” or being disrespectful or gloating over avoidable deaths with a “told you so” attitude- it’s purely dealing with the fact it’s happened again. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Max Power said: Yes, a lot are on the ferry home in the morning! Is there a reason they couldn’t run the senior tonight at say 18.30 as weather looks ok from now on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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