WTF Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 27 minutes ago, Boris Johnson said: At PROPER racing circuits they can make the surface smooth and without "Leaps" Leaps have no place in a safe race track. cadwell park, a proper racing circuit 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 On 6/20/2022 at 7:07 PM, Youaintseenme said: For me it should end the day someone who hadn’t made a conscious decision to be anywhere near it is killed or injured. Until then when it is people who have volunteered to expose themselves to that risk in return for the buzz they know it will give them it can carry on. It's exactly what you said. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 29 minutes ago, Youaintseenme said: That doesn’t apply to hardly any sport. Its like saying a marathon runner would go out full whack for the first few miles, or that a cyclist would burn out in the first hundred miles of a stage. Its like a weightlifter going for a PB on his first lift or a f1 driver using all his fuel or tyres. You do know that in most motorsport people very rarely drive or ride at even 90 percent don’t you? You really do post some shite As usual, not a lot of what you post makes sense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Youaintseenme said: Really? Boris said, in response to someone saying that the throttle works both ways ”The only people that say that are people that have never felt the adrenalin rush of proper competition, in any sport.” That shows he knows nothing about motorsport. With the exception of drag racing and hill climbs I can’t think of a motorsport where people race at full speed for the whole race. full speed and as fast you think you can go are not the same thing. some people don't get that. sometimes you think you can go faster and physics says otherwise , that's when the fan starts to smell. Edited June 26, 2022 by WTF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langweilig Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/petition-calls-for-changes-for-tt-2023/?fbclid=IwAR2KZXog8G5EM8NCfZRCWOYAIsds44JL8M9XZUa-PESSVQlnY2SsTMWrNrc This doesn't surprise me in the least. Were I a TT fan, I wouldn't welcome this. Between 2005 and 2009, I made a point of visiting Ellan Vannin to attend the Rally Isle of Man. In 2008, I went to the Scollaig Road/ Abbeylands stage and a NIMBY turned up and moaned in the face of of one of the marshals, "We're shut in for the TT. We're shut in for the rally. My son can't get his gym. Is the anyone I can write to, to have this stage moved away from Abbeylands?" Of course, I and other rally fans assembled there, were laughing at her. The following year, the stage was moved away from the crossroads. In addition to that, Health & Safety had decreed that the rally was cut from three to two days and popped, flying champagne corks were directed well away from spectators at the winner's paddock at the TT grandstand. I always looked forward to the last day of the rally at the grandstand. Yep, a great occasion was wrecked by Health & Safety. Edited June 27, 2022 by Langweilig additional info 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOR Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Langweilig said: https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/petition-calls-for-changes-for-tt-2023/?fbclid=IwAR2KZXog8G5EM8NCfZRCWOYAIsds44JL8M9XZUa-PESSVQlnY2SsTMWrNrc Some reasonable asks there. Then they go and blow it all by asking for the return of the fun fair. wtaf Edited June 27, 2022 by AOR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Exactly my thoughts AOR I was listening on MR and until the tacky fun fair was mentioned thought it as a viable plan I certainly will not be signing it for that very reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 1 hour ago, AOR said: Some reasonable asks there. Then they go and blow it all by asking for the return of the fun fair. wtaf I was with him all the way until that stupid suggestion. Bring the funfair back but put it up Jurby Airfield 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsmeee Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 I don’t understand why the petition is asking for the Hospitality Suite only to allow sponsors in, not members of the public. Surely if they pay, anyone should be allowed to go in? What’s it got to do with the schedule, the scoreboard or any of the other gripes this petitioner is whinging on about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Roxanne said: It’s a well meaning petition but it’s not going to work. It’s too late to go back to ‘grass roots’. The government won’t allow it. Now they are involved and have declared it a money making scheme, we can only expect more ‘corporate’ decisions from here on. The real question is just how much of a money making scheme it is for the government though, rather than just certain individuals or outside companies. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOR Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Roxanne said: They’ll get the fair back tho. For sure. You're probably right, unfortunately. At one time our young people would look forward to the TT and the day they could become a marshal or just enjoy the racing. These days they see the TT as a reason to get hammered and go down the fair, with a badge of honour being escorted by the police from Bushy's Village, drunk and disordery - there were a few of those badges dished out this year. ETA: Anyone who signs that petition, not just because of the funfair thing, but most of the rest, is a bit of a knacker. Edited June 27, 2022 by AOR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Unfortunately this petition is a bit of a whinge, “things are not as good as they were” which I can sympathise with, being a traditionalist myself. I’m afraid those days have gone and it’s best to remember them for what they were. Traditionalists knock younger fans and so called “bucket listers” but they have every right to enjoy the event without the scorn heaped on them because they buy a hospitality ticket! Most people I have spoken to enjoyed the event, lots thought the app and live feed was great. I agree that certain traditional elements need to be retained, but some things just can’t, the scoreboard for example can never have 100 scouts at the roadside again, the safety barrier made the thing almost useless also! As far as atmosphere, everyone told me that the fan zone was ideal, the promenade lacked any semblance of fun and the crappy lighting made it worse! Perhaps the fair is needed to create a vibrant atmosphere? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOR Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) I reckon: 1. Bring back the party atmosphere that was on every set of hotel steps along the length of Douglas Promenade. From there we would know exactly what the petition was about. Oh, yeah, and bring back the 2 strokes and Castrol R. 3 hours ago, Passing Time said: I was with him all the way until that stupid suggestion. Bring the funfair back but put it up Jurby Airfield It's a good point. This would have benefits for all. Edited June 27, 2022 by AOR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooly Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 11 hours ago, Langweilig said: https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/petition-calls-for-changes-for-tt-2023/?fbclid=IwAR2KZXog8G5EM8NCfZRCWOYAIsds44JL8M9XZUa-PESSVQlnY2SsTMWrNrc This doesn't surprise me in the least. Were I a TT fan, I wouldn't welcome this. Between 2005 and 2009, I made a point of visiting Ellan Vannin to attend the Rally Isle of Man. In 2008, I went to the Scollaig Road/ Abbeylands stage and a NIMBY turned up and moaned in the face of of one of the marshals, "We're shut in for the TT. We're shut in for the rally. My son can't get his gym. Is the anyone I can write to, to have this stage moved away from Abbeylands?" Of course, I and other rally fans assembled there, were laughing at her. The following year, the stage was moved away from the crossroads. In addition to that, Health & Safety had decreed that the rally was cut from three to two days and popped, flying champagne corks were directed well away from spectators at the winner's paddock at the TT grandstand. I always looked forward to the last day of the rally at the grandstand. Yep, a great occasion was wrecked by Health & Safety. Manx Radio with their finger on the pulse as ever, reporting on a petition started 2 years ago... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 10 hours ago, Hooly said: Manx Radio with their finger on the pulse as ever, reporting on a petition started 2 years ago... Well it has been updated but looking at some two year old comments I have to wonder what it’s all about? i don’t think paddock access has been affected in any way whatsoever for example? There is nothing stopping anyone from providing entertainment in the town? It’s a business decision like it always has been! The support for the fair is divided anyway, although it does provide a focus. It’s a bit of a rant and simply one side of a multi opinionated argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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