Asthehills Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 When there were two accidents at Ago’s people were quick to blame the road as you couldn’t have such a coincidence It sounds like both incidents this more are in places that have already seen red flags this week. Maybe coincidences do happen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 13 hours ago, Omobono said: its a pity the races have been reduced to a shadow of their former selves ,when they attracted over 100 riders for each class we will be lucky to see 30 start in the classic lightweight , and probably only just over half the bikes will finish , I just don't know what the agenda is here , the Manx Motorcycle club ran some great races in the past , but the cold hand of government is starting make itself felt ,and I guess after the centenary of the MGP in 2023 that will be the end of it , its dying a death before our eyes , and this years new shortened format is depriving the hospitality and retail sector the income they justly deserve to be able to survive , by knocking almost a week off the event we must be mad , the event can grow and should included trials , enduro , vintage and historic motorcycles as part of the package , there will be a lot of disgruntled fans here next Tuesday morning when they realise they are stuck here until next weekend with nothing to do ,and the racing finished , is this what government calls growing the economy ! I think Not ! with this and potentially fucking about with the TT, maybe they are trying to end the TT/MGP by pissing off everybody so they don't bother coming over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Asthehills said: When there were two accidents at Ago’s people were quick to blame the road as you couldn’t have such a coincidence It sounds like both incidents this more are in places that have already seen red flags this week. Maybe coincidences do happen Coincidences do happen. But the more often they do, they happen the less likely it is they are coincidences. Coincidences by definition are rare events. If these recent accidents happened where accidents frequently have in the past, that is just the most dangerous places on the Course showing they are dangerous. If these are places that racing bikes normally manage well, then there may have been changes that are increasing the likelihood of accidents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 I have never been to Canada and have never been attracted to the place so I do not get where you are coming from. It as a genuine question to find out what the consensus of feeling is regarding the changes perhaps someone with half a brain will be kind enough to give me their thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, hissingsid said: I have never been to Canada and have never been attracted to the place so I do not get where you are coming from. It as a genuine question to find out what the consensus of feeling is regarding the changes perhaps someone with half a brain will be kind enough to give me their thoughts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 9 hours ago, joebean said: The MGP will be kept going for a few years due to the reluctance of politicians to be seen to end it, rather than the number of visitors justifying the expenditure and disruption. It seems to me the event is at least as well attended as it has been for a number of years. There's loads of bikes around and the pubs were far busier than I've seen them at any other time (apart from the TT) since Covid. That's the thing with classics and older people. Yes older people eventually die but they are replaced by newer older people. The same with classic machinery - it wasn't all that long ago that two strokes were the new thing, they were raced in MotoGP until 2002 and a hydrogen powered version is rumoured to be making a comeback there soon. Classics tend to be bikes spectators rode or remember from their youth, with the trend in motorcycle sales being up, despite blips with Covid and supply probelms caused by the Ukraine war, I think it's a while before classic bikes will lose their appeal, if ever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 On 8/26/2022 at 5:45 PM, Sheldon said: Am I missing a subtext here? Yes, Gizo doesn't like motorcycle racing to be a success because it inconveniences him for a few weeks a year, although he'll no doubt claim some other reason that he thinks will make him sound less stupid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Laying aside the issues around the TT/MGP with accountability, safety, competentcy of the so-called organisers and the fact that it doesn't actually make money.... They will continue for a good few years yet as the island has no imagination when it comes to tourism. The island will keep flogging the same old same old until time ad infinitum. The same old boring and dated MNH sites are still open, the same old boring (and unsafe) railways are kept alive on millions of pounds of taxpayer's cash. So in the same vein motorsport will continue. The same team of highly paid civil servants will keep being wll paid to scratch their collective backsides. We could do worse than look at @Stu Petersidea for a gravity sports park on Snaefell. It's one of the only places on earth you can experience the unique Manx gravity. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy the Kid Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 (edited) Lockdown over for today so can go out tomorrow. I hope the spectators enjoyed the few bikes that went round over almost 8 hours of closed roads! Edited August 27, 2022 by Billy the Kid 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, 0bserver said: the unique Manx gravity 9.807 m/s², same as everywhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTail Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, HeliX said: 9.807 m/s², same as everywhere else. No, ours is Victorian Manx gravity 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 16 minutes ago, HeliX said: 9.807 m/s², same as everywhere else. By classroom standards yes. But the real world is a bit different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 30 minutes ago, 0bserver said: We could do worse than look at @Stu Petersidea for a gravity sports park on Snaefell. It's one of the only places on earth you can experience the unique Manx gravity. As unique selling points go, something which is ubiquitous in not only the world, but the entire universe is a pretty shit one. You know you've got something fairly unique (as in the TT/MGP), when whinging poms start moving here and complaining about it. They could live literally anywhere else on the surface of the planet and be less affected by motorcycle road racing than here, but then they'd have nothing to whinge about would they? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asthehills Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 50 minutes ago, Billy the Kid said: Lockdown over for today so can go out tomorrow. I hope the spectators enjoyed the few bikes that went round over almost 8 hours of closed roads! Yes we did thanks, and everyone else I saw out watching also seemed to have a good day. It was a shame about the midges in the evening but overall it was a cracking day and the pubs and restaurants should do well this evening. The closed roads have been a thing for over a hundred years so aren’t really something anyone can complain about. Fingers crossed for nice weather and a cracking day in Ramsey tomorrow 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, A fool and his money..... said: As unique selling points go, something which is ubiquitous in not only the world, but the entire universe is a pretty shit one. You know you've got something fairly unique (as in the TT/MGP), when whinging poms start moving here and complaining about it. They could live literally anywhere else on the surface of the planet and be less affected by motorcycle road racing than here, but then they'd have nothing to whinge about would they? Something can't be 'fairly unique'. Unique is one of a kind. It either is one or a kind or it isn't. Your mind will be blown when you learn that motorbike racing isn't unique to the Isle of Man or the British Isles. Maybe the problem isn't 'whinging poms' coming over here, maybe the real problem is Manx Crabs that are too scared to leave the bucket every once in a while. Then you'd see how shit some of our 'attractions' are in comparison to the wider world. Edited August 27, 2022 by 0bserver 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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