AOR Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Happier diner said: I reckon it would make no difference at all. Unless we think that the TT is that influential. I don't think it is. We would have a very poor field of entries. You're probably right, but I can't help feeling the Isle of man Government do not realise the influence the TT has, and the potential control. It's a perfect testing ground for manufacturers and technology. Where else is there a race on real roads over such a long demanding varying distance? Many people own 1000cc motorbikes, but very few ever get to use the machinery to its potential, and even then only very occasionally (what's the national speed limit in UK...). It's effectively a willy waving shiny status symbol. Edited September 2, 2022 by AOR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 There's nothing being raced at the TT or MGP that is remotely relevant to current machinery sales, the events are Tourism spectacles, the TT in particular, and the MGP looks to have reached something of a crossroads in where it's going. Some big decisions are going to have to be made about that event's future and the bearing that types of machinery sales have on both it and the TT's future IMHO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 5 hours ago, joebean said: 600s are not really modern bikes anymore as no manufacturer makes new sports bikes in the 600 class. That's why the class has changed, Yamaha and Honda still produce a 600 but in smaller numbers. The class now permits these to race with what are basically 800cc triples and 1000cc twins at world superbike, BSB and TT, MGP level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 anyone heard of the dates or programme for the 2023 centenary of the Manx Grand Prix yet ? and why are the government and organisers seemingly dragging their feet , over this , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Omobono said: anyone heard of the dates or programme for the 2023 centenary of the Manx Grand Prix yet ? and why are the government and organisers seemingly dragging their feet , over this , Be waiting till results are in for survey they did to do with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Was talking to someone who has been a Marshall for years she said it went very well only because the weather was good ,on the whole ,if there had been any bad weather it would have been a total failure. I think that just about sums it up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asthehills Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 7 hours ago, hissingsid said: Was talking to someone who has been a Marshall for years she said it went very well only because the weather was good ,on the whole ,if there had been any bad weather it would have been a total failure. I think that just about sums it up. That’s sums up most events in Britain to be fair. The Royal Show. Glastonbury. The Grand National. Trooping of the Colour. British Grand Prix. The old format was losing its appeal for a number of reasons such as public appetite for two weeks of road closures plus competitors teams and marshals having to take so much time out of work and have so many nights in paid accommodation. They tried something new and for a lot of people it worked betters. Yes if it had rained it would have been an issue but that has always been a problem. Hopefully th new format will be retained but with provision for more closures so they have a bit more flexibility of the weather is bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holte End Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Asthehills said: That’s sums up most events in Britain to be fair. The Royal Show. Glastonbury. The Grand National. Trooping of the Colour. British Grand Prix. The old format was losing its appeal for a number of reasons such as public appetite for two weeks of road closures plus competitors teams and marshals having to take so much time out of work and have so many nights in paid accommodation. They tried something new and for a lot of people it worked betters. Yes if it had rained it would have been an issue but that has always been a problem. Hopefully th new format will be retained but with provision for more closures so they have a bit more flexibility of the weather is bad. Please enlighten us, when the format of the other events have been changed by Government. Also where is the data to prove that the public were unhappy with the old racing format. The lack of information on the road closures during this shambles was appalling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asthehills Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 24 minutes ago, Holte End said: Please enlighten us, when the format of the other events have been changed by Government. Also where is the data to prove that the public were unhappy with the old racing format. The lack of information on the road closures during this shambles was appalling. What lack of information on road closures? It was published all over eh place? What was appalling about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsdesk Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 36 minutes ago, Asthehills said: What lack of information on road closures? It was published all over eh place? What was appalling about it It was pretty bad to be fair. They should have taken more time to advertise the closures especially as people aren’t used to the new format. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holte End Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 4 hours ago, Asthehills said: What lack of information on road closures? It was published all over eh place? What was appalling about it And of course there was no changes to the schedule at any time during this new and improved format of the grand prix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asthehills Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 8 minutes ago, Holte End said: And of course there was no changes to the schedule at any time during this new and improved format of the grand prix. All there were were delays and use of the widely publicised contingency sessions? What could they have done better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piebaps Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, Holte End said: And of course there was no changes to the schedule at any time during this new and improved format of the grand prix. There were changes which resulted in fewer road closures. Old version New version Practice week race week Practice week race week Sat Sat Sun Mon Mon Mon Mon Tue Wed Tue Wed Fri Wed Thur Thur Fri Fri So aside from moving the first practice from Sat to Sun and having no race week at all after the bank holiday the format was pretty much the same. And of course the roads didn't close at all on the Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellanvannin2010 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 22 minutes ago, piebaps said: There were changes which resulted in fewer road closures. Old version New version Practice week race week Practice week race week Sat Sat Sun Mon Mon Mon Mon Tue Wed Tue Wed Fri Wed Thur Thur Fri Fri So aside from moving the first practice from Sat to Sun and having no race week at all after the bank holiday the format was pretty much the same. And of course the roads didn't close at all on the Friday. Wasn't the racing on a Tuesday and Thursday at one time? , cannot recall when it changed @Max Power may remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banky Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 7 hours ago, Newsdesk said: It was pretty bad to be fair. They should have taken more time to advertise the closures especially as people aren’t used to the new format. Newsdesk, right then. I'd be looking at changing your name there to something that can keep up to date with what's going on around you.!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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