TT 2022 ??

[hissingsid]

The Steve Mercer case is a scandal.

[Annoymouse]

37 minutes ago, hissingsid said:

The Steve Mercer case is a scandal.

The handling of the Mercer case might appear scandalous but it’s not over yet, I don’t think Mercer will be forgiving and forgetting any time soon.

[joebean]

17 hours ago, hissingsid said:

The Steve Mercer case is a scandal.

In what way? 

[Amadeus]

So what about the many riders who don’t have enough practice to take part in the next TT? Could be a very reduced field. I’m looking for a couple of amateurs to sponsor but not many coming over by the look of things. 

[ManxTaxPayer]

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Edited January 11, 2022 by ManxTaxPayer

[hissingsid]

This incident was not a calculated risk though was it ?   Of all the many risks the rider could envisage  would not include coming face to face with a Marshall or Marshalls travelling towards you in a controlled 🙄 race setting.   This is beyond inexcusable.

[ManxTaxPayer]

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Edited January 11, 2022 by ManxTaxPayer

[paswt]

7 minutes ago, hissingsid said:

This incident was not a calculated risk though was it ?   Of all the many risks the rider could envisage  would not include coming face to face with a Marshall or Marshalls travelling towards you in a controlled 🙄 race setting.   This is beyond inexcusable.

Not sure about the "Marshal or Marshals"  , a course car with two ( initially one) police officers on board was what I was given to understand but I stand to be corrected.

[WTF]

58 minutes ago, paswt said:

Not sure about the "Marshal or Marshals"  , a course car with two ( initially one) police officers on board was what I was given to understand but I stand to be corrected.

i want to know why the bikes were coming back the 'wrong way' for want of a better term without a marshal escort as should have been the case. mercer should/ought to have known with his experience that there should have been a marshal escort. 

[Boris Johnson]

1 hour ago, ManxTaxPayer said:

On a course that is so unsuited to safe racing anything is calculable. One assumes the insurers had factored such an incident into their assessments. 

I have a lot of insurance for business stuff and in all of that insurance, which covers things that people can die from doing if they do it wrong, it nowhere states that because what we are doing is dangerous does it let me, as an employer, ignore my responsibilities to my employees and think that I can do as I please.

Its a common misconception that just because you are insured you are covered in all cases, you are not. 

You have to behave responsibly AND SAFELY.

YOU HAVE A DUTY OF CARE to undertake things in a way that does not hurt others, and in this Mercer case, the ACU? Did not seem to behave that way or it would not of occurred. 

There should be in place systems that stop that type of accident happening.

That there were not, so someone/ some organisation will have to pay for their mistakes.

I really hope it finishes off the ACU? Whoever was responsible. its a shocking case. 

Can you imagine it happening in F1? MOTO GP? WRC?

[Non-Believer]

42 minutes ago, WTF said:

i want to know why the bikes were coming back the 'wrong way' for want of a better term without a marshal escort as should have been the case. mercer should/ought to have known with his experience that there should have been a marshal escort. 

They were released from one or more "holding points" between Sulby and Churchtown, Lezayre, and told to ride in the reverse direction by Course Officials i.e. marshals. On their passage back they passed other groups who were still held at their respective locations.

Why and on whose authority the moving group(s) were told to return from their "holding" locations is one of the great mysteries and will most likely never be given a straight public answer as it might raise questions over certain aspects of control and management.

[paswt]

1 hour ago, WTF said:

i want to know why the bikes were coming back the 'wrong way' for want of a better term without a marshal escort as should have been the case. mercer should/ought to have known with his experience that there should have been a marshal escort. 

Fair comment , would be interesting to know the content of the riders briefing . Travelling marshals lead riders off the course the "right way" after a red flag .  I am also curious as to why the car with two police officers were on the course. I understand there was sadly  a 'fatal'( which was the reason for the red flag )and as no other bikes were involved there was no reason for the police to investigate .I understand the road had been cleared , one wonders if the occupants of the car were speeding to the scene for a bit of rubbernecking ?  Just saying

[ManxTaxPayer]

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Edited January 11, 2022 by ManxTaxPayer

[Ramseyboi]

fair enough it was nearly 25 years ago.  But WRC is hardly a shining example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AntTKfRO5po

[wrighty]

4 hours ago, WTF said:

i want to know why the bikes were coming back the 'wrong way' for want of a better term without a marshal escort as should have been the case. mercer should/ought to have known with his experience that there should have been a marshal escort. 

I don’t understand why, if riding the course the wrong way, when a race is not live, that rules of the road don’t apply. i.e. drive/ride on the left. If both returning riders and the car ‘racing to the scene’ stuck to that simple principle, this would never have happened.