Non-Believer Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 24 minutes ago, hissingsid said: So all Marshalls will sign up to the ACU code…..which is ? Stay schtum and don't rock any boats... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 23 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Stay schtum and don't rock any boats... Rumours abound that locally based TT marshals are resigning in droves with at least 2 more sector marshals calling it a day , perhaps the grand plan is to make the the Isle of man motorcycling events totally reliant on the good will of the ACU and to ship marshals in for the TT and Manx at great cost to the taxpayer ,thus making themselves totally in control and creating a monopoly of officials and marshals , someone has to pay for the massive building in Rugby that has been practically empty for the last couple of years , perhaps this really is the beginning of the end ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Helmut Fromage Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 3 hours ago, A fool and his money..... said: How many likely winners were there in the 1967 senior, or the 1992 one? Both celebrated as two of the best ever. Whatever threats there are to the future of the TT (and they'll be overstated as they have been for well over 100 years) the quality of the racing is not one of them. I feel a 55 and a 30 years passed analogy might prove my point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paswt Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) Andy, the new entity is that approved by the DfE in consultation with the ACU so it would appear that they are in complete charge . Perhaps Rob Callister could provide greater and better particulars. Sid , the ACU code:- "Any official is required to operate in line with the protocols commensurate with the role and prestige of the event and adhere to the ACU national sporting code with regard to officiating on the mountain course." I have no idea what that sporting code means but assume that all officials have to confirm that the ACU cannot be faulted in any way in their running of road racing on the island , again perhaps Rob could clarify , assuming he can without getting clearance from the CoC/ACU😉. Omobono I have been reliably informed that another CSM has confirmed he will not be marshalling . On social media quite a number of marshals ( on the mountain) have stated they will not be available . the ACU are already in control , they may well ship their own marshals in from across (who presumably will want travelling expenses / free accommodation / payment ??? as do the medics ) to join those local volunteer marshals who are prepared to sign up to total obedience with a non disclosure agreement . We live in interesting times, just saying Edited January 28, 2022 by paswt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chief Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 46 minutes ago, paswt said: Andy, the new entity is that approved by the DfE in consultation with the ACU so it would appear that they are in complete charge . Perhaps Rob Callister could provide greater and better particulars. Sid , the ACU code:- "Any official is required to operate in line with the protocols commensurate with the role and prestige of the event and adhere to the ACU national sporting code with regard to officiating on the mountain course." I have no idea what that sporting code means but assume that all officials have to confirm that the ACU cannot be faulted in any way in their running of road racing on the island , again perhaps Rob could clarify , assuming he can without getting clearance from the CoC/ACU😉. Omobono I have been reliably informed that another CSM has confirmed he will not be marshalling . On social media quite a number of marshals ( on the mountain) have stated they will not be available . the ACU are already in control , they may well ship their own marshals in from across (who presumably will want travelling expenses / free accommodation / payment ??? as do the medics ) to join those local volunteer marshals who are prepared to sign up to total obedience with a non disclosure agreement . We live in interesting times, just saying no marshals will be coming from across, End May/June is right as the UK motorsport season gets going, on my calendar there's at least 6 major meetings on the weekends of TT fortnight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr Helmut Fromage said: I feel a 55 and a 30 years passed analogy might prove my point. My point being that his hundred and fifteen year old prediction hadn't happened yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 I saw a interesting news article today on 3fm the Starship Enterprise have applied to put 168 portakabins on the site of the old Prison site on Victoria Road. There will be no events, and no retail or sales of alcohol. At the expense of putting gloried boxes up, would it have not been easier to put up tents, and to have a toilet/shower block which could be towed away? Also is it the islands authorities role to provide accommodation? It’s amazing this site has been allowed to be turned into a campsite, when the land should have been used to build more homes, it should have been gifted to Douglas Council, and hopefully the site is redeveloped. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 26 minutes ago, 2112 said: I saw a interesting news article today on 3fm the Starship Enterprise have applied to put 168 portakabins on the site of the old Prison site on Victoria Road. There will be no events, and no retail or sales of alcohol. At the expense of putting gloried boxes up, would it have not been easier to put up tents, and to have a toilet/shower block which could be towed away? Also is it the islands authorities role to provide accommodation? It’s amazing this site has been allowed to be turned into a campsite, when the land should have been used to build more homes, it should have been gifted to Douglas Council, and hopefully the site is redeveloped. why should it have been gifted to Douglas Council? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 36 minutes ago, 2112 said: I saw a interesting news article today on 3fm the Starship Enterprise have applied to put 168 portakabins on the site of the old Prison site on Victoria Road. There will be no events, and no retail or sales of alcohol. At the expense of putting gloried boxes up, would it have not been easier to put up tents, and to have a toilet/shower block which could be towed away? Also is it the islands authorities role to provide accommodation? It’s amazing this site has been allowed to be turned into a campsite, when the land should have been used to build more homes, it should have been gifted to Douglas Council, and hopefully the site is redeveloped. I would think the MDC & Chris Thomas’s housing board will be looking at this site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Another bright idea that will certainly not pay for itself, can we afford these flashes of brilliance from this department 🤑. Renting and transportation of cabins and shower/ toilet blocks, erection and dismantling , bins ,etc there is obviously no one in this department with a business or any other sort of brain. Tents would have been better if the ground is suitable. It does not matter how much money is wasted there is no accountability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 16 minutes ago, hissingsid said: Another bright idea that will certainly not pay for itself, can we afford these flashes of brilliance from this department 🤑. Renting and transportation of cabins and shower/ toilet blocks, erection and dismantling , bins ,etc there is obviously no one in this department with a business or any other sort of brain. Tents would have been better if the ground is suitable. It does not matter how much money is wasted there is no accountability. Isn't it Duke Marketing who are doing this? They did the same in 2019 so it must be worthwhile. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 hour ago, 2112 said: I saw a interesting news article today on 3fm the Starship Enterprise have applied to put 168 portakabins on the site of the old Prison site on Victoria Road. There will be no events, and no retail or sales of alcohol. At the expense of putting gloried boxes up, would it have not been easier to put up tents, and to have a toilet/shower block which could be towed away? Also is it the islands authorities role to provide accommodation? It’s amazing this site has been allowed to be turned into a campsite, when the land should have been used to build more homes, it should have been gifted to Douglas Council, and hopefully the site is redeveloped. It's actually a repeat of use of the site in 2019, though in that case the application was by Dukes Marketing rather than the DfE. The 'agents' are the same however (Denning Millar Projects) who are presumably responsible for producing the plans and getting the thing errected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 38 minutes ago, hissingsid said: Another bright idea that will certainly not pay for itself, can we afford these flashes of brilliance from this department 🤑. Renting and transportation of cabins and shower/ toilet blocks, erection and dismantling , bins ,etc there is obviously no one in this department with a business or any other sort of brain. Tents would have been better if the ground is suitable. It does not matter how much money is wasted there is no accountability. I’m sure the Starship Enterprise will need a team of civil servants to run the ‘camp site’. I hope it makes a wonderful financial return, for all the work preparing, running and dismantling the portakabins. I am assuming that the Starship Enterprise is actually running the camp site, they have made the planning application? A good use of taxpayers resources, another Allinson bright idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Passing Time said: why should it have been gifted to Douglas Council? Alright, let’s sell the site to either Dandara or Hartford Homes or another developer. I’m sure a few £1m+ homes could be squeezed on that site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Johnson Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 25 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: It's actually a repeat of use of the site in 2019, though in that case the application was by Dukes Marketing rather than the DfE. The 'agents' are the same however (Denning Millar Projects) who are presumably responsible for producing the plans and getting the thing errected. This really needs looking into. I believe we are seeing our hard earned money being pissed away and a third party making money to rub salt into the wounds................... I know how much it costs to ship containers to the island and its at least £1.4k a time one way. How oh how does this setup at the prison make any financial sense? £3K Shipping, on and off the island. Never mind the setup and maintenance costs..... Never mind the government funded electricity cable that was put in a couple of years ago, what did that cost alone? It really does not stack up and I really think we are wasting more taxpayers money on this like lots of the TT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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